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Lesmiz4
01-03-2007, 7:55 AM
Hello everyone...I'm sorry I don't have a picture, and I've searched the forums but can't find anything.

I have a Zebra that has become deformed. It almost looks like his spine has become humped. He's been swimming more at the top and away from the other 2 recently, and just isn't acting like himself. He's still eating fine, but just seems a little listless. I've had him for about 1 year and 3 months.

See signature for tank info
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 10
PH: 7.8 (steady)

Any ideas? Sorry I have no picture, none of them came out very well.

Thanks for your help!

pokagon55
01-03-2007, 8:10 AM
a problem with a deformity of the spine could be a sign of fish TB. Do a search on fish TB and see if that fits.

jgulecas
01-03-2007, 8:48 AM
While disease is possible, what you describe is a sign of old age. Danios are not long-lived fish.

beviking
01-03-2007, 9:05 AM
Don't rule out genetics either. Perfectly healthy fish still have a % rate of offspring that can/do become deformed. It's a small %, but it does happen.

Mgamer20o0
01-03-2007, 9:08 AM
dont know how right this site is but saw someone post this. it says this about the life span

Zebra Danio - 5 years

http://freshaquarium.about.com/cs/beginnerinfo/a/lifespan.htm

pokagon55
01-03-2007, 10:16 AM
Journal of Fish Biology
Volume 13 Issue 1 Page 79 - July 1978
doi:10.1111/j.1095-8649.1978.tb03415.x
Volume 13 Issue 1


Spontaneous skeletal deformities in the Zebra Danio (Brachydanio rerio) bred for fish toxicity tests
R. D. Piron1
Zebra Danio (Brachydanio rerio, Hamilton-Buchanan) tropical fish are easily maintained and bred under laboratory conditions; procedures for maintenance and breeding are described. Intensive inbreeding of this fish gave rise to a high incidence of spontaneous skeletal deformities which appear to reflect a genetic defect rather than an environmental stimulus. This finding casts doubt on the suitability of the Zebra Danio for fish toxicity testing.


beviking was right with the problem on genetics.

jyanagi
01-03-2007, 10:41 AM
Does your danio look anything like my video here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi-3pFBTSDo

I'm still not sure what this is, but it has happened to two of mine. (One died 2 months later, the other is doing fine, it was 2 weeks ago)

dontburnthe_pig
01-03-2007, 7:27 PM
my friend has this same thing. His fish still schools and is as active as his body will allow him to be. So i would be willing to bet nothing is wrong. But i could be wrong

Lesmiz4
01-03-2007, 9:02 PM
Does your danio look anything like my video here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi-3pFBTSDo I'm still not sure what this is, but it has happened to two of mine. (One died 2 months later, the other is doing fine, it was 2 weeks ago)

Yes, he does look very similar to this! He's still eating fine, but he is hanging out at the top of the tank a bit. I guess I'll just wait it out, and see how he does.

Thanks for all your help!

jgulecas
01-04-2007, 8:49 AM
Spinal deformity on its own could be a number of things. Zebras do develop a hump as they age, but the process is not sudden. Spinal deformity combined with other things, some of which the original poster mentioned (listlessness, loss of appetite) could be a sign of disease, and yes, fish TB is a candidate. Have you seen any lesions? If it might be TB, I would quarantine or euthanize the fish.

jyanagi
01-04-2007, 11:15 AM
Yes, he does look very similar to this! He's still eating fine, but he is hanging out at the top of the tank a bit. I guess I'll just wait it out, and see how he does.


I had a feeling. Just like yours, mine suddenly looked and acted strange. He got looking kinda scragly and was acting lethargic. In a few days though, he got much better. In fact, now he's only got a slight hump and is almost like he was before. Although he still tends to keep away from the other two danios (he hides on the bottom in a decoration.) This happened with two different zebra danios. The first time was a few months ago and that fish lived for another 2 months.

However, I've been experiencing many guppy deaths in the same tank. This morning, the last died and I was looking at it in sunlight and I saw a 1/8 inch worm swimming around in there. So, I'm pretty sure that they are the culprit causing havoc in my tank.

I was asking on another board and her danios took on the same shape when they were ill.

So, like jgulecas says, I suspect that there is SOMETHING gone wrong in there. Maybe not disease, could be parasites, or possibly even stress. I don't know if it's a fact, but now, I've heard from a couple of sources of a dramatic change like this in their danios when under attack from something. You indeed may want to quarantine the fish, or at least, minimally keep a very good eye on it and the other fishes (what else do you have in the tank?)

beviking
01-04-2007, 12:16 PM
beviking was right with the problem on genetics.

:thud:

If the fish is deformed I would suspect spinal deformity from genetics BUT, this shouldn't result in any other behavior out of the norm. Listlessness, not eating, and otherwise poor appearance are signs of disease. :eek:

Shorgasm III
01-04-2007, 3:59 PM
i tried posting yesterday, but when i went to reply, the site went down.

anyways, mine does not look like that one in the video. here is a picture of the one with the most prnounced hump, and it hasnt affected him one bit. still very active, and very hungry! if yours looks like this, i wouldnt be worried

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k153/ShorgasmIII/fish%20tank/IMG_2982.jpg