Can you find the Pit Bull?

[labont865]

Here is my challenge.

Simply post a number for which one you think is the Pit Bull. at the end I will tell you which is the real "Pit Bull".
This is the 4th time I have posted this poll on a website lets see if you guys can do better than the other sites.

Votes:

1.
2.2 votes
3.1 vote
4.1 vote
5.1 vote
6.1 vote
7.
8.1 vote
9.
10. 1 vote
Total votes.

[daayda3]

I vote number 2:D

[jm1212]

i say #6

[labont865]

Reason for this poll is to show how few people can actually identify a Pit Bull.
It kinda gives some insight as to how many false Pit Bull Attacks are filed every year.

[NeonJulie]

I vote 5. But they're all terrific contenders. <3

[LIBPA]

four, i have no idea

[Omega]

My neighbour has a "pit bull" that looks exactly like number three.

Hmmm...

[NeonJulie]

DH says No. 2.

I probably wouldn't tell this to him... but he's usually always right.

[Blueiz]

3 or 8..leaning closer to number eight

[labont865]

3 or 8..leaning closer to number eight

Gotta decide. I have you down as a vote for 3 already so let me know if your changing to 8

[phaedraeos]

definately 10

[Blueiz]

Gotta decide. I have you down as a vote for 3 already so let me know if your changing to 8

:eek: You are making a woman decide??? :D

Ill go with number eight, and when this is done, will you list the names of the dog breeds..

[labont865]

:eek: You are making a woman decide??? :D

Ill go with number eight, and when this is done, will you list the names of the dog breeds..

Ok 8 it is.

Yeah I will list the names of the breeds at the end.

[labont865]

Ok 8 it is.

Yeah I will list the names of the breeds at the end.


Sorry 8 isnt the answer thats just her vote.

[NeonJulie]

Speaking of the answer, how long does thigs go?

Btw, the one in your avatar... he's (she?!?!) is pretty beefy!

[labont865]

Speaking of the answer, how long does thigs go?

Btw, the one in your avatar... he's (she?!?!) is pretty beefy!

Yeah he is from a selectively bred strain. Bred for their natural muscularity and size. But he is juts a plain freak.
This poll will go for a bit, until I am satisfied with the number of votes.

[dorkfish]

I say numba 9... doubt that's it though.

[boofish2]

I'm gonna say #2. . . I think... yeah, #2.

[fballguy]

#9 looks just like my neighbor's pitbull, so I'll vote 9

[daayda3]

So whats the answer?;)

[Importskyline22]

#3 for me

[Blueiz]

I added a poll to this, those of you that have already voted, please dont respond to the poll, I have added your votes already

Thanks,
Blue

[Dangerdoll]

my answer is 5

[NeonJulie]

I added a poll to this, those of you that have already voted, please dont respond to the poll, I have added your votes already

Thanks,
Blue

Oh crap...

[fballguy]

5 is a boxer i think

[NeonJulie]

5 is a boxer i think

DOH. To be honest... I knew no. 1, but I figured the second least likely is probably going to be it. OH THE SUSPENSE.

And TWO can play at this game:

PICK THE POM!

http://www.healthgene.com/canine/images/pomeranian.jpg

http://www.anapsid.org/images/blue-iguana-jbinns.jpg

http://www.oceanalliance.org/images/gallery/bluewhale_uw_500.jpg

http://www.travelsinparadise.com/australia/sydney/pictures/zoo-lion-02.jpg

http://www.granick.com/blog/cat.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/Golden_crowned_fruit_bat.jpg

Think carefully now...

[Dangerdoll]

5 is a boxer?? huh?? 2nd row, first pick on the left? The brown one??

[judgemax]

um, i don't actually think any of those are boxers!:cool:

[AndrewMack]

3

[Blueiz]

um, i don't actually think any of those are boxers!:cool:

I think number two is...:)

[jm1212]

i think number 2 is a boxer too

[labont865]

Nope No boxers in there.

[NeonJulie]

Nope No boxers in there.

Whew! :clap:

[Dangerdoll]

I do like 4 and 10 the best though :D

[labont865]

Well its been a good turn out for votes so far, I guess the question is are any of you right?

You`ll just have to wait and see.

[Dangerdoll]

oh labont, handsome and cruel, ;)

[KingOfTheDeep]

i'll go with 8

[phaedraeos]

Oh crap...

I voted twice too.

[Plecosterone]

Since Pit Bulls seem to be a name that can cover a wide variety of breeds (at least in a lot cities that have banned them), I would have to say that they all look like candidates. I have 2 cousins that have 2 pit bulls and although they look sorta similar they are nothing alike. One is short and very friendly and smart, the other is larger and if he wasn't so lovable he would probably be put down because he so stupid. But any dog that can run into a tree at full speed and shake it off like it was nothing is a dog that can take anything. They are one tough breed that is for sure.

[raymgnz]

I'll say 8. Either a pit or an am-staff.

[bkw1982]

i voted 3...when we gettin the answer? ok i cheated and looked it up, i wanna change my vote to 9. but man it really is hard to tell. this is an interesting post, especially only a cple weeks a 10yr old girl was killed by a "pitbull" and the animal was put down

[wataugachicken]

sorry, but i really don't think it matters. it's like putting up a bunch of pictures and asking which one is the true hound dog? 'hound' and 'pit bull' both cover a lot of dogs. personally i realize that these dogs are only bad when people make them bad or neglect them, but other people don't. whether it's a bull terrier, or a pit bull, or a staffordshire terrier, or a bull mastiff, or etc etc etc. they are all grouped into the greater category of fighting dogs, and most places now don't discriminate based on whether a dog is a registered pit bull, they include all the bull/fighting breeds and mixes, rotties, dobermans,sometimes german shepherds/mixes, AND dogs that look like the fighting breeds, plus they discriminate at their own discretion as well.

[daayda3]

WHATS THE ANSWER:D ;)

[jm1212]

i agree with wataugachicken

IME the little dogs are the nastiest

[Reddog80p]

all of them except # 1, that is a bull terrier. Well actually a couple may be amstaffs it's rather hard to tell, Pits in general are bigger, and have "blockier" heads than amstaffs (american staffordshire terriers), #7 may be a presa canario dog(canary island dog)

[GirlieGirl8521]

Ahh...I voted for #7 but meant to vote for #6 (miscounted). :(

When are we gonna get the answer?

[Reddog80p]

PITBULLS ARE NOT INDESCRIMINENT PEOPLE BITERS!

Unimformed people are the ones who make such "classifications", The true name is apbt or american pitbull terrier recognized by the ADBA for many years now, and to "pitbull" lovers and admirers it does matter. Pitbulls are no different than other kind of dog, they just have the ability to cause more damage if not trained or kept humanely. Matter of fact my vet told me the worst bite he'd ever seen was inflicted by a yellow lab(the dog of course).

[Reddog80p]

Those of us who own "Pitbulls" know what a pitbull really is! I'd never own another breed of dog.

[5xevy]

Does anyone remember Spuds MacKenzie?

Ahem, anyway...

#1 is a bull terrier. *If* any of them are a true "pitbull" I would have to go with #5. The rest, to me, seem like American Staffordshire Terriers (Amstaffs), possible Presas, or some sort of other terrier.

[raymgnz]

"Pitbull" does not cover a lot of dogs. It is a breed! The American Pitbull Terrier to be exact. A mixture of two extinct breeds the true old english bull dog ( which gave rise to the american bulldog ) and the english white terrier. And by the way bullmastifs are also a "breed" they have been around for over 400 years. A mixture of 60% english mastiff and 40% old english bulldog. These dogs are pure breds as much as any other breed you can think of.

[webcricket]

Pits have such an unfortunate bad rap due to the media. They are lovely dogs in general.

I've been working for veterinarians for 12 years and have never come across a nasty pit bull or pit mix. They are gregarious and friendly in my experience.

Now the top 5 dog breeds I tend not to trust (if I don't know the dog) are Shih Tzus, Shiba Inus, Border Collies, Dalmations, and German Shepherds. I'm not saying they are all bad, in most cases the dog is fine, and even if the dog is nasty with us, it's perfectly fine under normal circumstances (i.e. not being poked and prodded by the doctor)...we just tend to be more careful dealing with those breeds.

[Evan214]

I want to say #2

[kooter]

definitely #9

[GirlieGirl8521]

Reddog, your pit is adorable! Such a cutie. :)

[labont865]

Alright folks. Are you ready?

The answer is....dun dun dun dun dun dun duuuuunnnn.

I will tell you right after these messages from our sponsor.

hahaha j/k

The answer is Number 10! number 10 is the only true APBT of the group.

1. Miniature Bull Terrier
2. Dogo Argentino
3. Cane Corso
4. Irish Staffordshire Terrier (red nose)
5. English Staffordshire Bull Terrier
6. American Bull Terrier
7. Cane Corso X
8. Staffordshire Terrier
9. "Amercian" staffordshire Bull Terrier
10. American Pit Bull Terrier.

[labont865]

Many of these breeds are regarded to be the same. All are frequently considered Pit Bulls as a generic term. Most fall into the "Bully" breed term. None are true Pit Bulls. Staffordshire Terriers were created from major selective breeding between Pit Bulls and a few other breeds of dog, including Bull dogs, Boxers and Mastiffs.

Wataugachicken- This makes a huge difference. The breeds all show completely different traits. Staffordshire Terriers for example tend to be more human agressive and less dog aggressive than Pit Bulls. A true Pit Bull is Bred and actively bred to have absolutely no aggression towards humans. But they were selectively bred to be aggressive towards other dogs. Especially other dogs of the same sex. Wit their original breeding they were bred to fight. BUT the human had to be able to grab the dog, and be able to handle the dog in the middle of the fight to avoid either dog from getting seriously hurt. A dog that can only fight once is alot of lost money. This is another common misconseption of REAL dog fighting. It was never a fight to the death. Ocasionally it did happen but it was not the intent to let the dogs kill eachother. They want repeat contenders much like boxing. Staffordshire Terriers were created to have a dog that could be with other dogs but still look like a Pit Bull. They were created with looks in mind only. As most things are. They had issues with keeping the look the same while doing this. Hence why we have quite a few different types of Staffy, depending on how they were bred and what they were mixed with.

The reason this is such a huge issue with APBT lovers is that there are other breeds being classified as one breed and any atack or issue that happens is being blamed on the one specific breed which is not fair. Especialy now that the breed is officially recognized by numerous associations. The ban that is common now is a huge issue aswell for all dog owners. It leaves them open to take any dog they want to. A friend of mine just lost his papered show quality pure bred golden lab because a pound employee deemed it a pit bull. it was taken and euthanized all while my friend was at work. Not even a note on his dor. He came home wondering where his dog was. Figured it must have gotten out of the yard, calls the pound. They tell him oh no sorry sir your Pit Bull was put to sleep today. He then explained it was a lab and they argued with him even after he showed them the papers. They are trying to tell him the papaers were forged. This is the problem with the ban most areas are implimenting. Bans are not the way to go. A proper licensing system is the way to go.

[labont865]

As for the poll. This just shows you.
under 7% of the vote was for the right dog.
Most votes actually went for the Cane Corso and the "Amercian" staffordshire Bull Terrier.
Two dogs that are infact quite different from a Pit Bull.

I gotta say though overall this site did very well. The best result from any other site was only 3%

[phaedraeos]

I WIN I WIN I WIN!!!!

[phaedraeos]

In light of me being the first person to pick the right dog, I get to celebrate by posting pics of my pitt(or am staff)/boxer cross, Baela. And her viciousness.

[rosita]

Phaedros, that is a beautiful critter---thanks for sharing the pix!!! And a brindle!!! I'm on my 2nd Staffy-mix rescue, brindle as well; she came all the way from Georgia!!

Labont, you state the AmStaff is more human-aggressive than the AmPit. My experiences have been quite the opposite, unless the mix tempers it (1st was Pointer, this one is unknown--looks all Staffy). Just interesting, as I love these dogs more than any other breed I've ever lived with (except for my superloyal Tibetan Terrier).:huh:

[Aussie_hippie_2]

I win!

[labont865]

Phaedros, that is a beautiful critter---thanks for sharing the pix!!! And a brindle!!! I'm on my 2nd Staffy-mix rescue, brindle as well; she came all the way from Georgia!!

Labont, you state the AmStaff is more human-aggressive than the AmPit. My experiences have been quite the opposite, unless the mix tempers it (1st was Pointer, this one is unknown--looks all Staffy). Just interesting, as I love these dogs more than any other breed I've ever lived with (except for my superloyal Tibetan Terrier).:huh:

No I am by no means sayoing they are necessarily human aggressive. But by breeding they are more human aggressive than a true Pit Bull. They are no more human aggressive than most other breeds of dog. It was a tradeoff in the breeding of them from Pit Bulls. They were so woried about getting rid of the dog aggressivness they stopped paying attention to the human aggression. And as a result the Staffordshire Terrier is to an extent more human aggressive than a true Pit Bull.

[judgemax]

Many of these breeds are regarded to be the same. All are frequently considered Pit Bulls as a generic term. Most fall into the "Bully" breed term. None are true Pit Bulls. Staffordshire Terriers were created from major selective breeding between Pit Bulls and a few other breeds of dog, including Bull dogs, Boxers and Mastiffs.

Wataugachicken- This makes a huge difference. The breeds all show completely different traits. Staffordshire Terriers for example tend to be more human agressive and less dog aggressive than Pit Bulls. A true Pit Bull is Bred and actively bred to have absolutely no aggression towards humans. But they were selectively bred to be aggressive towards other dogs. Especially other dogs of the same sex. Wit their original breeding they were bred to fight. BUT the human had to be able to grab the dog, and be able to handle the dog in the middle of the fight to avoid either dog from getting seriously hurt. A dog that can only fight once is alot of lost money. This is another common misconseption of REAL dog fighting. It was never a fight to the death. Ocasionally it did happen but it was not the intent to let the dogs kill eachother. They want repeat contenders much like boxing. Staffordshire Terriers were created to have a dog that could be with other dogs but still look like a Pit Bull. They were created with looks in mind only. As most things are. They had issues with keeping the look the same while doing this. Hence why we have quite a few different types of Staffy, depending on how they were bred and what they were mixed with.

The reason this is such a huge issue with APBT lovers is that there are other breeds being classified as one breed and any atack or issue that happens is being blamed on the one specific breed which is not fair. Especialy now that the breed is officially recognized by numerous associations. The ban that is common now is a huge issue aswell for all dog owners. It leaves them open to take any dog they want to. A friend of mine just lost his papered show quality pure bred golden lab because a pound employee deemed it a pit bull. it was taken and euthanized all while my friend was at work. Not even a note on his dor. He came home wondering where his dog was. Figured it must have gotten out of the yard, calls the pound. They tell him oh no sorry sir your Pit Bull was put to sleep today. He then explained it was a lab and they argued with him even after he showed them the papers. They are trying to tell him the papaers were forged. This is the problem with the ban most areas are implimenting. Bans are not the way to go. A proper licensing system is the way to go.


In dog fighting, when a dog showed any human agression, it was to be destroyed, they did not tolerate it, the dog , no matter how injured, sick ect, was to let any human near it.

Labonte, there was a very similar situation here, the shelter "found " a freinds boxer, and euthinized it, they claimed it was a pit x even though he had papers showing it was a full blooded boxer, they put him down no sooner than he left the shelter,( to get mor ei nfoe that they requested) they said regardles, it was a pit mix, and was roaming the streets, ..sickened me so, it was a very pretty dog, thats what started the whole rescue idea, ..how many went down, that the owners had no idea?..it kills me! I told him to contact a lawyer, haven't gheard anything yet though!

[labont865]

In dog fighting, when a dog showed any human agression, it was to be destroyed, they did not tolerate it, the dog , no matter how injured, sick ect, was to let any human near it.

Labonte, there was a very similar situation here, the shelter "found " a freinds boxer, and euthinized it, they claimed it was a pit x even though he had papers showing it was a full blooded boxer, they put him down no sooner than he left the shelter,( to get mor ei nfoe that they requested) they said regardles, it was a pit mix, and was roaming the streets, ..sickened me so, it was a very pretty dog, thats what started the whole rescue idea, ..how many went down, that the owners had no idea?..it kills me! I told him to contact a lawyer, haven't gheard anything yet though!

Exsactly, they were not bred for human aggression.

I can tell you about 30 stories similar to that. It sickens me to no end.

[Lady G]

I didn't realize you had already answered and voted for 10..sorry if I messed up your poll. But hey at least I voted right:huh:

[labont865]

I didn't realize you had already answered and voted for 10..sorry if I messed up your poll. But hey at least I voted right:huh:

hahaha no worries.

if one of th mods is able to edit the poll could you take 3 votes off #10 there were only 3 votes on it when I posted the nswer, then if you could close the poll that would be great

[Blueiz]

hahaha no worries.

if one of th mods is able to edit the poll could you take 3 votes off #10 there were only 3 votes on it when I posted the nswer, then if you could close the poll that would be great

done..:)

[labont865]

Thank you very much

[Reddog80p]

Here is my challenge.

Simply post a number for which one you think is the Pit Bull. at the end I will tell you which is the real "Pit Bull".
This is the 4th time I have posted this poll on a website lets see if you guys can do better than the other sites.

Votes:

1.
2.2 votes
3.1 vote
4.1 vote
5.1 vote
6.1 vote
7.
8.1 vote
9.
10. 1 vote
Total votes.

Number 8 if we are talking about the same dog, the bottom row 1st dog (big buskin dog)on the left is does not appear to be a staffordshire terrier, But It's hard to tell. Most of the pitbull terriers of today are not what they once were. Pitbulls are bred for size now, when in fact they were not this size years ago. A 80 lb. dog back then was "uncommon", where now I've seen pits over 100lbs. The common size for pits back then was around 45 lbs.

[Reddog80p]

Just my other dogs. The male brown (w/black nose) is my friends dog "derf" (fred backwards, his dad was fred R.I.P), The female brindle is snickers, and the rock jumper is Duke.

[Must4ng s4lly]

OK i Voted but i can see no pics! LOL1 I can't tell, cause i can't see em....

[labont865]

I posted the breeds on the page 6 I believe. He is a Staffordhsire Terrier 100%. He is just from a specific bloodline bred for size. Same as the dog in my Avatar. He is an above average sized APBT at 125lbs but he is an APBT non the less.

Edit: Common size for true Pits is still under 60lbs. Most bigger are actually Staffordshire Terriers.


Number 8 if we are talking about the same dog, the bottom row 1st dog (big buskin dog)on the left is does not appear to be a staffordshire terrier, But It's hard to tell. Most of the pitbull terriers of today are not what they once were. Pitbulls are bred for size now, when in fact they were not this size years ago. A 80 lb. dog back then was "uncommon", where now I've seen pits over 100lbs. The common size for pits back then was around 45 lbs.

[TheMightyQueenPixie]

Your "experiment" is flawed... A "Pitbull" is not a recognised breed...Ok, not counting the Hill billy backyard registry.
I cant help but wonder if you only come on here to promote your mongrels?

[phaedraeos]

Go here to view the breed conformation for the American Pit Bull Terrier, as recognized by the UKC (United Kennel Club). It's in the "Terrier" group.


http://www.ukcdogs.com/RegistrationBreeds.htm


The American Pit Bull terrier is not recognized by the American Kennel Club. That does not mean it is not a "breed."

[Reddog80p]

Your "experiment" is flawed... A "Pitbull" is not a recognised breed...Ok, not counting the Hill billy backyard registry.
I cant help but wonder if you only come on here to promote your mongrels?

Wow, I guess ignorance has no borders!

[TheMightyQueenPixie]

You are correct redddog, they are now recognised by the UKC...Looks fairly recent, a couple of years or so. Dont you find it a little unusual that they are the only ones doing it? I guess you cant blame a club for making a profit. So are you a member of the UKC?

[phaedraeos]

:troll:

[phaedraeos]

You are correct redddog, they are now recognised by the UKC...Looks fairly recent, a couple of years or so. Dont you find it a little unusual that they are the only ones doing it? I guess you cant blame a club for making a profit. So are you a member of the UKC?

The American Dog Breeders Association also recognizes American Pit Bull Terriers. www.adba.cc They have been recognizing the American Pit Bull since 1909.

In fact, here is a good history for you, taken from www.bulldogbreeds.com/americanpitbullterrier.html Please carefully read the first line, concerning the origins of the UKC. In case you are interested, wikepedia supports this statement on the origins of the UKC. You can find that information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kennel_Club


In 1898 the United Kennel Club was formed with the express intent of providing registration and fighting guidelines for the now officially-named American Pit Bull Terrier. Later, those who wished to distance themselves from the fighting aspect of the breed petitioned the American Kennel Club for recognition of the Pit Bull so that it would be eligible for dog shows and other performance events. The AKC conceded in 1936 but only under the stipulation that the dogs registered with them be called "Staffordshire Terriers", the name of the province in England the breed supposedly originated in. Upon acceptance of the breed, many people dual-registered their dogs with both the AKC and the UKC. Lucenay's Peter (the dog that starred in the Our Gang series) was the first dual-registered Pit Bull/Staffordshire Terrier. The UKC evolved, eventually beginning to register other working-type breeds, and later holding shows similar to those of the AKC. Currently, the UKC is the second largest purebred dog registry in the United States, complete with strict bylaws that ban anyone who is convicted of dog fighting. The American Dog Breeders Association was formed in 1909 because of certain fanciers' opinions that the UKC was not doing it's job protecting and preserving the Pit Bull breed as they felt it should be preserved. The ADBA's goal is the same now is at was then: to register, promote and preserve the original American Pit Bull Terrier fighting-type dog.

The AKC eventually closed it's studbooks to American Pit Bull Terriers. They allowed registration only to those dogs with parents registered as Staffordshire Terriers. For a short period in the 1970's, the AKC reopened its studbooks to American Pit Bull Terriers. In 1973 the AKC added the prefix "American" to the breed's name in an effort to distinguish it from the newly recognized Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Today, only those dogs with AmStaff parents are eligible for registration. Both the UKC and the ADBA allow registration of AmStaffs, but in these organizations the dogs carry the original name, "American Pit Bull Terrier."

[Reddog80p]

The American Pitbull Terrier is recognized by the UKC, ADBA and the AKC under the name American Staffordshire Terrier. I know people with dogs that are dual registered. Pitbulls are not mongrels.

[Reddog80p]

Bettas are notorious for fighting to the death if kept together, and unfortunately, have been exploited for these purposes. Early breeding of the fish focused on the pugnacious temperament and beautiful coloration of the species; the ingredients for a nasty fish fight. So, the modern-day Betta has had over a century of selective breeding to bring out the best and worst of these incredible freshwater fishes. It's probably here that I should mention that two male Siamese Fighters should never be kept together in the same aquarium.
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Wow, sounds kind of like the story of the American Pitbull Terrier! Yeah, I know Bettas can't severely injure people, but you get the point! Pitbulls can be trained, Bettas are simply "seperated".

[kjr928]

I believe that this experiment is flawed. Many of the pictures are either head shots or have nothing else in the photo to compare for size. There is no way of telling how big any of these dogs are.

With that said, and the fact that there are many dog breeds with a similar head structure to a pit bull, I'd say that #1 is a bull terrier, #2 could be a dogo argentino or a pit, #3, 6, 7 could be cane corsos, presa canarios, pitbulls or whatever, and the rest look like pitbull and staffordshire types.

Believe me though, anyone could tell the difference between a presa and a pitbull if they saw them next to each other.

This experiment is flawed.

[Dangerdoll]

2 is definitely a Dogo Argentino.... I need to know where I can find some pups

[labont865]

I believe that this experiment is flawed. Many of the pictures are either head shots or have nothing else in the photo to compare for size. There is no way of telling how big any of these dogs are.

With that said, and the fact that there are many dog breeds with a similar head structure to a pit bull, I'd say that #1 is a bull terrier, #2 could be a dogo argentino or a pit, #3, 6, 7 could be cane corsos, presa canarios, pitbulls or whatever, and the rest look like pitbull and staffordshire types.

Believe me though, anyone could tell the difference between a presa and a pitbull if they saw them next to each other.

This experiment is flawed.


Experiment is not flawed as the breeds I chose are all breeds that are very commonly reported as pit bulls in attacks. The photos I used were all chosen for a specific purpose. The point to the experiment is that even people who are very familiar with the breeds have trouble in certain conditions identifying which breeds are which. This proves that most people who are not familiar with the breed are going to have a very hard time accurately identifying the breeds in the case of an attack. There were over 100 "Pit Bull" attacks last year. Of which only 13 were actual Pit Bulls. Yet they used this number of 100 attacks in the arguement to ban Pit Bulls in my area. The funniest part of that 100 attack is that 25 of them were proven to be Labrador Retrievers. Anybody who cant tell the difference between a Labrador Retriever and a Pit Bull or Bully breed is a complete idiot and yet it was a group of about 15 people who reported these attacks as Pit Bull atacks. Those 15 people work for numerous different media companies in Canada. Whe they were asked why tey would report a Lab as a Pit Bull, they answered that if they reported it as a Lab it wouldnt be used in the paper or on the news and they wouldnt make any money, And that the public wouldnt pay any attention to it. But the minute the words Pit Bull is mentioned people instantly pay attention to the article.

MightyQueenPixy- Honestly, you need to keep your mouth shut in these threads, your ignorance towards this topic is actually almost unbelievable.

Edit: KJR your second paragraph is part of my point. They all have very similar head structure, that in most cases it takes someone who is very familiar with the dogs to recognize. And yet they let any little punk who volunteers an hour of his time to the pound decide if the dog is a Pit Bull if they bring it in after an attack.
And about your problem with not being able to compare size to anything. It realistically doesnt matter. The Pit and staffordshire terriers 90% of the time are withing about 5lbs of eachother. there are only 3 dogs in my choices over 60lbs and none weight less than 45lbs. The Dogo, Cane Corso, and the Staffy in photo 8 are the only dogs over 60lbs.

[Siren]

Okay, so what do we get to know the answers?

[Cheech]

Alright folks. Are you ready?

The answer is....dun dun dun dun dun dun duuuuunnnn.

I will tell you right after these messages from our sponsor.

hahaha j/k

The answer is Number 10! number 10 is the only true APBT of the group.

1. Miniature Bull Terrier
2. Dogo Argentino
3. Cane Corso
4. Irish Staffordshire Terrier (red nose)
5. English Staffordshire Bull Terrier
6. American Bull Terrier
7. Cane Corso X
8. Staffordshire Terrier
9. "Amercian" staffordshire Bull Terrier
10. American Pit Bull Terrier.



Siren, Voila...

[softturtle]

Your "experiment" is flawed... A "Pitbull" is not a recognised breed...Ok, not counting the Hill billy backyard registry.
I cant help but wonder if you only come on here to promote your mongrels?

Sinse when is the UKC "hill billy backyard registry?"

"promoting our mongrels?" What are you promoting? Obviously not good manners(as my mongrel shows far more good manners than you have thus far).

UKC registered, ped. and all. My APBT (allthough some say blues are not true pits- if it was black and white you couldn't tell the difference). But here is my baby.

[Reddog80p]

Nice dog!

[NeonJulie]

The problem seems to be people not in control. As in, they don't fix their animals, the animals are bred poorly, they are treated poorly, they get loose, or run off and run around and wreak havoc. I seriously doubt that most people's pets are (usually, see below, it does happen unfortunately)... the problem. In my area, there has been a dog attack every night. Probably 2/3 of them are blamed on a "pit bull mix." Which I think there is the point - they are mixes. The fact that no one even really knows what it is (and yes, I've seen the mixes that have part labrador), shows that no one really owns these dogs.

Just the other night somebody's daughter was killed by a roaming Rottweiler mix. Basically, these are wild dogs. Not trained, not cared for, not well fed, probably interbred, not domesticated, not FIXED, not leashed. Well, it's what people get (especially around here) for allowing their animals to run free and not care for them properly. And that's not including the dog fighting problem which, huh, come to think about it... also seems to be popular underground in this area. What a connection.

Anyway, not sure why it's such a debate on fish board- most of us are intelligent, well thinking people who know that typically, when an animal acts out, there's something wrong with the picture.

Sorry about your friend's missing dog that got put down. I would suggest people in this situation have a microchip implanted - it's not very expensive, we even did it for my maltese mutt in case she slips her collar.


A side story, the only dog my husband ever had was an Akita. It was well bred, beautiful animal, registered. They were thinking of breeding it. At about the year mark they decided not to, and had him neutered. The animal lived to it's 2nd birthday, a month after it walked up to his 9 year old cousin and wrapped it's mouth around her whole head. They waited too long, and he developed too much testosterone, and despite obedience classes, etc., the dog ruled his "pack" (family). He would never allow someone to turn him on his back. Apparently he didn't like the fact that the girl was his height, looking him in the eye. Thankfully she was ok.

[labont865]

Softturtle- Beautiful animal. Blues are definately my favorite coloration. Anybody who says they arent real Pits is wrong. With the slective breeding you can get any colour in real pits nowadays. Blues is still a very uncommon colour though.

Neon- The problem with the microchipping is that they put the dogs to sleep before people even knew they were missing. And mixes of any bredd can be a major problem. Mixing breeds really messes with the temperament of the animal. 90% of all dog attacks are mix breeds. They dont develop the temperament from either breed properly. Especially in multi breed mixes. Once you get past 2 breeds in a mix the dogs become very unpredictable. You can only judge how they are going to behave after time. as they grow older their behaviour can change drastically.

[NeonJulie]

Hmm. My mom told me the reason she had it done, was because they automatically scan for it when they get a dog in. What's it for, if they can't take 2 seconds before they inject it, and wave a wand over it's shoulder.

[labont865]

That is the case for most dogs. But it doesnt tend to happent hat way with "Pit Bulls" or "Pit bull" looking dogs.



Hmm. My mom told me the reason she had it done, was because they automatically scan for it when they get a dog in. What's it for, if they can't take 2 seconds before they inject it, and wave a wand over it's shoulder.

[NeonJulie]

Tattoo then? I think they do that, don't they, like on the bottom of the paw?

[labont865]

No it isnt the issue of the identification. Its the issue that they dont care if it has ID or not they have a habit of putting it down before they call the owner. They know who the dog is and who it belongs to but they put it to sleep so the owner cant come get it. That way in their eyes its just one less Pit Bull to deal with.


Tattoo then? I think they do that, don't they, like on the bottom of the paw?

[Omega]

OK so what is the correct answer?

[Malbri]

Alright folks. Are you ready?

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I will tell you right after these messages from our sponsor.

hahaha j/k

The answer is Number 10! number 10 is the only true APBT of the group.

1. Miniature Bull Terrier
2. Dogo Argentino
3. Cane Corso
4. Irish Staffordshire Terrier (red nose)
5. English Staffordshire Bull Terrier
6. American Bull Terrier
7. Cane Corso X
8. Staffordshire Terrier
9. "Amercian" staffordshire Bull Terrier
10. American Pit Bull Terrier.

just quoting this os the people just coming in here dont have to search through to find the right one

[fishluver93]

Lol this is hilarious.

I would've voted #5 and fallen victim. My sister apparently has a Chow-Chow/American Pit Bull mix so I thought I'd be able to tell. Here she is (Vegas):

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n177/bluetiger916/IM000843.jpg

And here's another of her lol.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n177/bluetiger916/Picture060.jpg

Nice idea!

[Native American]

labont865, I think it's a losing battle which will affect a lot of dog breeds, and it all has to do with money and tort reform.

Insurance underwriters can exclude dog breeds or those with certain physical characteristics (if it looks like an APBT, smells like one, you know..). It's 100% legal. The insurance lobby is pretty strong, and I would be willing to bet that the majority of insured clients who don't have these dogs would all come together to exclude APBT (or similar "breed type") owners from a pool of hazard or homeowners insurance clients just to get a much lower premium rate.

Large cities can't afford the lawsuits that come about when a kid gets attacked by a stray APBT / Presa Canario / (insert pit-bull-looking breed here). Why the city gets sued is beyond me, but it happens all too often (tort reform!) It is much easier to outlaw any dog that looks like them to reduce municipal culpability, which is why we have the laws that we have.

If you buy homeowner's insurance or an umbrella policy, read the exclusions! The APBT is classified as a "breed type". In short, if you have an incident with the dog, even it is only 1/16th APBT or equivalent "breed type" by displayed or documented breed purity, you can find yourself without an insurer by your side in court. Dog bite lawsuits pay out big dollars, even if it was a gentle dog that never bit anybody before, but only reacted because of some provocation. We may not like it, but those are the facts and no amount of demonstrations, dog shows by conerned owners, and other informative means have never changed that. Your informative poll is just a small plug in a leaking dam of bad information. If anything, momentum against these breeds just keeps getting stronger.

It's kind of like the non-native fish species that make it into our waterways. The easy way out is just to ban many species of fish from importation or sale. The big difference is that few fish look "threatening" (w/ the exception of Pirahnas due to cinematic exposure), so they have more "friends in politics".

APBT's and smiliar "breed types" have absolutely no friends anywhere except for concerned owners like you. They simply aren't "cute" like many tropical fish.

Kind of like rats and whitetail deer in the U.S. Whitetail deer have reached plague population levels in many states, costing over $1.5B per year in auto damage alone (doesn't include property damage from other means by these deer). Although there is no outcry to halt killing rats, nobody wants to see "Bambi" take an arrow or bullet to cull the excess. Whitetail deer are simply "rats with great public relations."

These dogs are on the opposite end, unfortunately. They have very little PR help except from people like you, labont. GSD's bite many more people each year, but it's not hard to get insurance w/ these. Hopefully you'll go to bat for our aquarium hobby when the public at large threatens that, too.

v/r, N-A

[labont865]

N.A. You have hit the nail on the head on most points except two. It used to be a losing battle. But it is actually starting to turn around in alot of places. Like up here in Canada. Only one place has a ban and that is Ontario. And even their Ban is under major scrutany now because of our fight. They are going to be doing major modifications to the ban if they dont completely get rid of it.
And the second thing. I think Pits are very cute dogs. haha

Actually 3 things. I understand your point with the deer and rats but I dont think Pits fall intot hat category.

This is the major issue with it. Tey are so firmly discriminated against due to the media. Same thing that has happened in the past with Rotties, and Dobies. But the battle for Rotties and Dobies both ended going the right way after awhile. There is still some discrimination but it is alot easier for them now than it was in say the 80s. This is what I am hoping for, for the pits by continuing my fight for them.

[Native American]

There's just too much media attention here in the U.S., and a huge population base that is already heavily biased, plus tons of laws already in place in almost all 50 states. I hope you're right about the turnaround, because I sure haven't seen it with dobies and rotties on the insurance angle...and especially APBT "breed types." I keep having to say "no" to prospective tenants w/ these animals, even if said dog is just happy to see me while we talking about the rental contract w/ their "owners" (you see, dogs only let us think we are their "owners").

v/r, N-A

[labont865]

Thats very true, anybody who thinks they own their dog is wrong. Dogs are our companions.
The insurance thing will be very hard to change. In Canada its alot more leniant and they have gotten past the breed discrimination alot more so than down in the US.