And just who do you think you are?

Irish563

Irish563

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I have kept a variety of pufferfish in my years. I have some friends that I have turned onto puffers as well. A friend of mine currently has 2 gsp in a 30 gallon. He continues to whine at me that everyone tells him he is wrong, and that his puffers need 30 gallons EACH. Now, he may be wrong, or they may be wrong, but my question is:
Just who do you think you are? Who are these people that write articles? Are they hobbyists like myself? Are they marine biologists? Zoolologists?
I think we can all agree that not everyone who posts/writes anything on fish is correct. So I am wondering why I can read 6 different "guides" on the same subject, and all of them are "correct" beyond a shadow of a doubt?
I'm not picking on anyone, but what makes them right?

Irish
 
Are you reffering to something specific on AC?

I don thtink you will find anything anywhere that is correct beyond a shadow of a doubt. Articles and the such are written from personal experience. Different ppl may have different experiences, doesnt make anything wrong, just different.

Turn the question back on yourself, what makes you "correct beyond a shadow of a doubt"? Not saying you have said you are. Just pointing out that any disagreements you may have most likely come from a different experience you have had.

Blue
 
Which is exactly what I'm saying. While I'm not pointing fingers, if everyone is just writing from personal experience, then why do people quote responses from sticky articles, or articles on other websites as "law"?
Not only that, but too many people are posting their personal opinion, and now people like to take sides and argue. It all seems rather ignorant to me.
I just thought that maybe some of these people were experts somehow.

Irish
 
How can you not post from personal experience? All the book knowledge in the world is worthless if you dont have experience to go with it. I would take someones advice that they are giving from personal experience anyday over someones that comes from a book. Dont you think that makes more sense?

I work on a farm. We do have an instruction manual, a very detailed one. I could not take that book never having been on a farm before and work the farm as it should be because I dont have the experience to know what to look for.

This could be a never ending debate, however I think you will find the majority if not all ppl would take someone who has experience advice that is written in article form over any ones that is pulled from a book, regardless of who the book was written by or what credentials they have.

Blue
 
I never said anything about a book. I also refuse to point fingers, but I can say that I have read so many articles and posts on different subjects and on different forums to make anyones head spin.
Maybe I'm not making myself clear. How many times have you read something that you KNEW to be completely wrong? How many other people have read that same article and done exactly what it says only to kill numerous fish? These people, can then:
1) Quit the hobby. (laugh, but it does happen)
2) Buy, then consequently kill more fish.
3) Do more research.
I put them in that order, because the majority of the time, this is what happens. There really should be a way to keep this kind of thing in check.
There should be a grading system, or some kind of credentials needed. I know that sounds extreme, but I really am sick of reading all of this crap, by these "know-it-alls" that hae done no more research than the "noobs" reading it and accepting it as law.
 
i understand your point your making but you just have to pic and choose who you want to believe and then see what works for yourself the reason for threads is to answer questions in a community of fish keepers and if an answer is wrong someone else can comment and fix that. thats the point of a community.. to work together. working in an aquarium store i see diffrent ways of keeping fish everyday some people make thing work certain ways.(might not always be the healthiest for the fish but works). we just have to trust each other and like with any science(fish keeping is a science in a way) we must review our peers and learn through trial and error.
 
Omega said:
What is considered right is usually the consensus among experts and hobbyists of what is best for the fish, within reason.
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You are right. But when you have to "wade" in the crap to find what you are looking for, it gets maddening. As I stated before, I dont want to point fingers at anyone, but I'm sure that if you or anyone else picks a topic, spends five minutes researching it, you would be surprised at just how many inconsice pieces of info are out there. You generally have to match 2 out of 3 articles with the same general idea to know you are onto something. Then there are those that spout their ludicris opinions to people who need help on a subject. These people go unchecked.

Irish
 
thats why like any good aquarist you do your own research so you can pick out the bull. thats what i have learned in the science community and what my favorite professor taught me you have to learn how to filter the wrong out its a skill not all possess but if you care so much ull learn it. not even the experts are always right thats why scientific reasearch is peer reviewed several times before being published.
 
Irish563 said:
You are right. But when you have to "wade" in the crap to find what you are looking for, it gets maddening. As I stated before, I dont want to point fingers at anyone, but I'm sure that if you or anyone else picks a topic, spends five minutes researching it, you would be surprised at just how many inconsice pieces of info are out there. You generally have to match 2 out of 3 articles with the same general idea to know you are onto something. Then there are those that spout their ludicris opinions to people who need help on a subject. These people go unchecked.

Irish
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OK, you refuse to point fingers. I am left wondering exactly what you are talking about, and why you posted it in this particular forum.

Honestly...You are sounding like one of the ppl youre not going to point your finger at...

Blue
 
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