View Full Version : Went Fishin'. . . What did I catch?
Glenstorm
04-20-2003, 4:17 PM
Hey guys I am taking a different approach to stocking my rift lake tank. . .
Went to the LFS with my digital camera and found some fish that were interesting . The pictures didn't come out that great but well see what ya'll can do.
Hoping people can give me some suggestions about what they may be.
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This one was actually black. I was surprised to see the color the flash brought out.
1 http://130.111.224.59/images/Fish/1.jpg
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2 http://130.111.224.59/images/Fish/2.jpg
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3 http://130.111.224.59/images/Fish/3.jpg
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4 http://130.111.224.59/images/Fish/4.jpg
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This one was interesting. . . He only had that stripe on one side.
5 http://130.111.224.59/images/Fish/5.jpg
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6 http://130.111.224.59/images/Fish/6.jpg
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7 http://130.111.224.59/images/Fish/7.jpg
Bristlenose Chuck
04-20-2003, 4:29 PM
Well, my experience with africans is minimal but I know that #2 is a Labidochromis caeruleus i.e. Electric Yellow or Yellow Lab cichlid
gregga
04-20-2003, 11:12 PM
1 - unsure
2 - yellow Lab
3 - Orange Blotched Zebra
4 - unsure
5 - juvenile Red Devil
6 - Yellow Lab
7 - Yellow Lab and Bumblebee
Glenstorm
04-21-2003, 7:19 AM
Thanks for the replies so far!!
These were pretty young, but any ideas on genders?
Are red devils Rift lake fish?
Also #2 and #4 are the same fish. . .
Verse914
04-21-2003, 9:13 AM
The yellow one is not a yellow lab. the yellow one in the 2nd, 4th, 6th and 7th looks like the same fish, but they are not yellow labs. It looks like a pseudo type...possibly a pseudotropheus saulosi(female) or pseudotropheus elongatus. Yellow labs have a wider body and face. As you can tell from the pics, yours is very long and slender. Also yellow labs do not show their stripes like the pseudotropheus do(like the one in your pic). Heres a pic of a yellow lab which you can compare to the one you took...
http://www.eng.uwaterloo.ca/~ecmoffat/pics/fish/labidochromis.jpg
The last one is a maylandia crabro or "bumblebee cichlid". The third one is a OB Zebra. The first one is too hard to make out what it is.
And no, red devils are not rift lake fish.
GEV83
04-21-2003, 10:29 AM
Red Devils come from Central America and get 12-14" in length and can be very agressive.
Glenstorm
04-21-2003, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by GER1023
Red Devils come from Central America and get 12-14" in length and can be very agressive.
That's what I thought. . . (that they were aggressive) Totally lame this place is fronting them as Africans. . . Actually it probably isn't the fish store it is the distributor.
Wonder how that would go over if I confronted them about it.
Regarding the yellow lab/psuedo's: They actaully had a yellow lab that I bought because it was the one fish that I could ID for sure. . . I didn't think 2,4,6 or 7 were labs but I wasn't sure if maybe they were variations. (I've only seen pictures of the males.) Thought maybe it was a female. . .
Bristlenose Chuck
04-21-2003, 11:48 AM
I'll just blame my incorrect ID on poor picture quality. :D
Glenstorm
04-21-2003, 12:01 PM
No Problem Chuck !!
:)
Originally posted by Bristlenose Chuck
I'll just blame my incorrect ID on poor picture quality. :D
dcouture20
04-21-2003, 12:17 PM
# 5 might be a red zebra its really hard to tell with the pic
GEV83
04-21-2003, 12:19 PM
Number five is already identified and is a red devil.
Glenstorm
04-21-2003, 1:41 PM
Are the "bulbs" of Red Devils developed later in life?
The fish I have doesn't have a bulb so unless they develop later on in life dcouture20 may be on to something. I am using this pic as a reference:
http://www.aquazoo.co.uk/g/fish/fish_Cichlasoma_citrinellum.jpg
Reiner
04-21-2003, 1:55 PM
I'm also not certain that #5 is a red devil. They usually have way bigger eyes and don't have blue fins below the gill plate. I also lean more towards a red zebra ( hybrid).
nattybrack
04-21-2003, 4:03 PM
#1 looks like a pseudotropheus demasoni. The color change would justify this as well.
The so called bulb develops later on in life and is called a nuchal hump (spelling???) also some Red Devils do not develop this especially when kept alone. Also Red Devils when small have big Eyes like that unless the ones near my pad just look bug eyed and end up looking like a normal fish when older. Another thing the stripe is on one side only not on both which further supports it being a red devil sice when they have black markings they are not exact duplicates on the opposite side unlike most african cichlids where the patter is the same on both sides like I said most not all but most. I could almost say for 100% that its a RD since pics are slightly blurry and you dont have multiple angles like a outline for instants or mug shot.
dcouture20
04-21-2003, 5:18 PM
GER1023 you are right with everything you say. The only reason that I said that it might be a red zebra is because of the blue fins which I have never seen on a red devil, but have on a red zebra. I was also giving the fish store the benifit of the doubt and just providing a different option to look at. If the picture was better the answer would be obvious.
I hear what your saying about the color on the fin but that could just be a flash or something even the way it is has the RD shape. But yeah to be positive another pic would be needed.
Glenstorm
04-21-2003, 7:59 PM
Originally posted by GER1023
But yeah to be positive another pic would be needed.
I'll see what I can do. . . Always lookin for a reason to visit the LFS!!!!
Seeing that all the others are africans I tend to think #5 is a red zebra.
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL22/551337/884827/20726184.jpg
This is a poor picture of one of my red zebras, notice the shorter face. The ones I have range in color from almost yellow to orange to red.
Her are some of my red devils
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL22/551337/884827/20345431.jpg
notice how the face is longer especially on juvenile fish.
I would say it is a red zebra almost definitly - it seems longer and has less height top to bottom, the placement of the dorsal and pelvic fins seems in line with a zebra too.
Though you never say never , especially with an unclear photo.
Glenstorm
04-22-2003, 11:33 AM
inxs's Red Devil juvies do look different than the fish I saw. Their heads are much sharper angles than the store's. Still working on another picture. . .
VoodooChild
04-22-2003, 5:19 PM
It's hard to tell but 4 looks alot like a Pseudotropheus aurora.
Glenstorm
04-24-2003, 4:18 PM
Hey Guy and Gals,
Here some new pictuers of my mystery fish. . . They are still blurry but different angles.
1http://130.111.224.59/images/Fish/RD_1.JPG
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2http://130.111.224.59/images/Fish/RD_2.JPG
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3http://130.111.224.59/images/Fish/RD_3.JPG
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4http://130.111.224.59/images/Fish/RD_4.JPG
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5http://130.111.224.59/images/Fish/RD_5.JPG
You said it had one stripe not two. Its not a RD they will answer you with the right answer soon enough. Yup I was wrong yet again man what is happening to me I use to be good at this. Oh well.
My guess would be a colorform of OB/red zebra.
Verse914
04-24-2003, 6:42 PM
Originally posted by inxs
My guess would be a colorform of OB/red zebra.
ditto
Glenstorm
04-24-2003, 8:39 PM
sorry for the misinformation GER. . .
Is "colorform" another term for a Hybrid?
Thanks for help!
No a colourform is a different colour, same species ie black dog , white dog. A hybrid is a cross of 2 species