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kbcichlid
04-21-2003, 8:01 PM
at the lfs there were some reddevils labeled as "colored red devil" there were all normal kinds(solid yellow) but there were to all white ones with splots on their mouth and one on each fin
1 had huge lips
and the one i got had norm lips but blue eyes
so i bought the one with blue eyes cause it looked rare and i wanted him to stop beatin everthinh in the tank
anyways could these be midas? do they sound like it?
and whats with the blue eyes?

dbcb314
04-21-2003, 8:45 PM
ive never heard of this before. sounds like they are dyed. hmmm

its probably not a midas nor red devil. most likely a cross. almost all fish labeled midas or red devil are really crosses. i dont think that has anything to do with it.

GEV83
04-21-2003, 9:27 PM
Ive seen pics of a RD or midas I cant tell the differance but they have huge lips not fat just big hard to explain but there called RD/midas. Also maybe you just got a weird special RD. Take and post a pic if you can.

inxs
04-21-2003, 11:33 PM
kb - RD/Midas/labiatus etc are mostly pondbred in Florida and SE asia so they are pretty uniform and usually have some labiatus and citronellum in them. I have noticed a lot of them starting out with large lips that may eventually get smaller. They often go through a lot of colorchanges before they mature and settle in to one color and may keep changing even when they are 10+ inches.

Here are a few ex.
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL22/551337/1724338/21957866.jpg
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL22/551337/1724338/21957861.jpg
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL22/551337/1724338/21957873.jpg
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL22/551337/1724338/20345487.jpg
http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL22/551337/1724338/21075996.jpg
Those pictures are of fish from the same 5 fish group over the last 4 months and they have changed back and forth to the point where I want to rename them chamelionfish.

The blue eyes I don't have a clue about.

H8Parrotfish 13
04-22-2003, 12:43 PM
You actually could have obtained a Zaliosum, Labiatus cross. I haven't seen them in like 10 years. As for the blue eyes they would fade in adults.

dbcb314
04-22-2003, 4:14 PM
inx, how do you keep all those red devils in the same tank? dont they try to kill each other.

my red devil has never changed colors. hmm thats wierd

inxs
04-22-2003, 10:03 PM
dbcb314 - no they get along fine(as far as siblings will:D ) they do pick and nibble but don't actiually hurt or tear eachother up, no torn fins.

They were really torn up when I got them but I think overfiltered water, good diet and ample hidingspots brings out the best in all fish. Keeping the same fish that started out as juvies together helps too. I am however looking for a bigger tank for them as we speak.