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Andrew225

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Jun 26, 2007
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I've heard of Baking soda, i'll give it a shot.

Thanks for the pics! I'm afraid my fish look like...WEll, neither. If anything ,it seems to be Ammonia burns. I noticed some gasping today, which has helped me with that.
Ony my way back from school toda,y I'm going to pick up some stuff or it. Fingers crossed!
 

KarlTh

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But don't add baking soda at this point! If there's ammonia, and you raise the pH with baking soda, your fish will probably respond by dropping dead.

Get a reading on the KH, ammonia and pH of tap and tank water FIRST so that you know what you're dealing with.
 

BadRoma1

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this is not a good time messing with your Ph. why don't you just do some water changes and see how it works for you. for everything else i would use Maracyn-two. my favorite, harmless for biobacteria too. during treatment, try to do water changes every day before dozing for that day. DO NOT use things like Melafix or Premafix at this time.
 

Andrew225

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Maracyn-two. Gotcha.

I'm afraid of all things I know, I'm least informed on medicines, so all of this is wicked helpful
 

Pixie_84

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this is not a good time messing with your Ph. why don't you just do some water changes and see how it works for you. for everything else i would use Maracyn-two. my favorite, harmless for biobacteria too. during treatment, try to do water changes every day before dozing for that day. DO NOT use things like Melafix or Premafix at this time.
I agree fully. You really don't want to mess with the PH levels. Do some water changes and if needed use the Maracyn-two like suggested here. Good luck and don't be too hard on yourself, you're trying to resolve it. :)
 

ksane

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I haven't finished reading the thread yet (I will). But I can tell you that's what happens with what they call "old tank syndrome" where the water hasn't been changed in awhile and you get a pH crash (which you did). They get those cloudy eyes and the white film on their bodies. My advice (take it or leave it) is to change about 10% of the water every day for a few days, then do 25% and then go back to 50% a week like most people do. I definitely would NOT use any meds, any salt, heat or anything. They just need clean water.
Ok...now I'll finish the thread :)
 

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Wow I never knew that the PH could drop from old tank syndrome. Hmmm guess I learned something new for today granted I learn alot everyday from here and from articles people post on here as well.
 

Andrew225

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Jun 26, 2007
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Update:
I lost the majority of my small fish. (Corydoras Cat Fish, Rosy Barb, Silver tip tetra)...About eight in all.
The larger fish (Rainbow Cichlid, Gourami, African Jewel Cichlid, Angels, Eel, German Blue Ram) are eating and showing less signs of stress. Eel's entire body actually cleared up!
Did another fifty percent water change today. Can't test ammonia (No tests...Gah!) but Nitrites are coming up at a solid zero. PH is back to 7.

Added a full dose of Stress Coat as well, figured it couldn't hurt.

-Andrew
 

ksane

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I really don't think ammonia is your problem. Because the filters were running the whole time, the biological filtration would be taking care of the ammonia and nitrites. Your nitrates were surely sky-high and the tank water was so depleted of minerals it had no buffering capacity at all. That's why you got the pH crash. Let's all hope the others recover.
Moment of silence for the Cory Cats.......................... :-(
I adore Corys.
 

Andrew225

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Jun 26, 2007
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As did I...

Update: Went to see a movie tonight. Was confidant in fish; all of them ate, water was looking good.
Applied two packets of Maracyn (-Not- 2...I had gotten the wrong product, apparently.)

Came back a few hours later. Just now checked the tank..

Cloudy water.
Eel is dead
Both angels dead
German blue ram dead
One african jewel dead
One Rainbow Cichlid dead.

I was feeling so hopeful...
All that's left is 3 africans, 3 arainbows, and 3 gourami. Not sure I expect the same come morning.
 
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