2nd L-18 has died

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isellcars

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Think I'm just going to find another pleco that is a bit more hardier and just as colorful. Just not sure which one because I also want it to stay around 4" maybe 5".


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How is the O2 level in the tank ? I run Aquaball 1212s in all my pleco tanks, in addition to sponge filters and AquaClear filters. Like previously stated, O2 levels are more important than flow. My only flow comes from the filters. Correction - I also run small Koralia water pumps along the back wall of the pleco tanks to help keep food and waste from accumulating in the back. Good luck.
 

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I think the o2 level is pretty good. I have a heavily planted tank with a sump tank for filtration. I am circulating about 750 gph. All my other fish and plecos seem to be doing very well.


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How long had the gold nuggets been in the tank? They do not import well, but once acclimated they usually do fine.
 

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High current is definitely needed with these guys. There is a big difference between Baryancistrus and Hypancistrus in terms of their care. For one thing Baryancistrus xanthellus (L18) gets to be 14" SL (length not including the tail fin) and goes through a dietary change from herbivore to carnivore as it grows.

Wood is important but you should also include meaty foods like pieces of cut up shrimp and fish as part of the diet.

I keep 4 of them in a 120 gallon tank right now. My goal is to eventually breed them and I hope to end up with one pair that I can keep in the 120 eventually.

Besides the return from my sump I also have a 2600 gph circulation pump driving water down the length of the tank. I use straight RO water and keep the water temperature about 82 degrees.

They are actually one of the more difficult plecos to keep long term and many do not survive the first year after being imported. Mine are approaching 6 months since being imported and still look healthy and are eating well. (Knock on Wood).

Andy
 

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I would like to take exception to the flowing water requirement. I have found that using 2 powerfilters creates enough surface agitation to assist in the replenishment of O2. The key is that they should be large enough to sustain the tank if one should fail. I was using a canister and noticed the plecs at the surface a lot of the time. I added an airstone with a good sized pump and they returned to hiding. I then swapped over to 2 powerfilters with them on each end of the back wall and now I see more activity but without the surfacing for air. Since I run 2 AC70's on a 40BR you might say I have ample circulation without setting up a complicated flow. On my 75 I run 2 AC110's and it certainly doesn't stop them from breeding or create needing to surface.
 
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In his 2008 book "Back to Nature Guide to L-Catfishes" Ingo Seidel wrote in the discussion about the Aufwuchs-feeders on page 34:

These very highly spcialized Aufwuchs-feeders include, for example, the popular Baryancistrus species, Chaetostoma, and numerous Ancistrus, as well as the L-number catfishes of the genera Pseudancistrus, Guianancistrus, Lasiancistrus, Hopliancistrus, Zonancistrus, and a number of others. In the wild the central Amazonian species as well as those from the upper Orinoco drainage inhabit very warm shallow-water zones with a strong current and feed all through the night. In the aquarium, however, they frequently receive food only once a day and are also generally kept at too cool a temperature. Species like the very popular "Golden Nuggets(Baryancistrus sp. 'L018', 'L081', 'L177') for example, usually respond to this by a complete standstill in their growth. Even after years of captive maintenance they frequently remain unnaturally small. In the worst case scenario they may also become emaciated and sooner or later die.

For this reason it is important to feed these out-and-out vegetarians several times per day (at least twice) with a diet consisting predominantly of vegetable food. Suitable foods include many types of vegetable, for example, lettuce, spinach, cucumber, zucchini, sweet peppers, carrot, potato, and many more. Even if this food has to be weighed down with pebbles, a piece of non-rusting metal, or similar, it offers the major advantage that it is available to the fishes throughout the day and they can feed on it continuously in accordance with their natural habits.
He suggests keeping the L018/L081 at 26-30C.

I hope this information helps.


nar- I wish you good luck with your project. According to our friends at Planet Cat
Well documented breeding in captivity has been accomplished once. The fishes had a very specialised diet of blended meat, fish and vegetables and were kept in a large aquarium with lots of current, high DO and spawned at 30°C. The free swimming fry were fed the same food to raise them.
I would also note they say this as well:
Although strong currents are needed for breeding attempts, only good water quality and a high temperature are required for this fishes successful onward maintenance.
 
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isellcars

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High current is definitely needed with these guys. There is a big difference between Baryancistrus and Hypancistrus in terms of their care. For one thing Baryancistrus xanthellus (L18) gets to be 14" SL (length not including the tail fin) and goes through a dietary change from herbivore to carnivore as it grows.

Wood is important but you should also include meaty foods like pieces of cut up shrimp and fish as part of the diet.

I keep 4 of them in a 120 gallon tank right now. My goal is to eventually breed them and I hope to end up with one pair that I can keep in the 120 eventually.

Besides the return from my sump I also have a 2600 gph circulation pump driving water down the length of the tank. I use straight RO water and keep the water temperature about 82 degrees.

They are actually one of the more difficult plecos to keep long term and many do not survive the first year after being imported. Mine are approaching 6 months since being imported and still look healthy and are eating well. (Knock on Wood).

Andy
My LFS told me these only get between 4-6". That is why I bought the first one. Knowing they could get 14" I would never have bought it, let alone bought a second one.
I wanted a colorful pleco that gets around 4" and this is what I was recommended to get.
Glad I never tried a third time.


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You should try some of the Hypancistrus types as they get about that size. L333, L66, L340, L129 are all good choices. Not quite as bold as juvenile gold nuggets but still quite attractive.

Only problem is these guys like to hide so they become the coolest fish you never see.

Andy
 
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