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Adding fronts to a established african cic tank

Discussion in 'African Rift Lake Cichlids' started by CornBreadjiffy, Sep 2, 2010.

  1. CornBreadjiffy

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    I have a 48 gallon show that is currently housing about 18 to 21 africans just can't get a good count. But I found a guy that has 6 2 inch fronts and is wanting to sell them to me for 40 bucks. Yes all of them. So I am wondering if this would work for now until we move in next 2 months or so where at the new house they will have there own tank to themselves. The tank now has 2 AC70s and plenty of rock work and such. Please feel free to comment send ideas email or PM does not matter.
     
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    Eh depends on the type of africans. If they are mbuna then I would say no. They are much more aggressive and active than fronts and can stress them to death.
    What are your plans for the fronts once you move? They will need a 6' tank eventually.
     
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    What size would the new tank be? Which species do you currently have?

    I think it's rather risky introducing juvenile fronts to an established malawi (I'm assuming) tank. They get large but aren't the toughest fish.

    In the meantime maybe you could setup a large rubbermaid tub as a temp tank for them. That's a heck of a deal and I'd hate to miss it if he has to sell now.
     
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    It would at least be a 125 gallon and with what's in the tank now is a asortment mbunas,kenyi,peacocks,socfili,johanna,yellow labs, acies,zebra hybrids, 1 rainbow shark, and a couple of red jewels
     
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    Could they live in a rubber maid tote for a couple of months
     
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    They can't go into that tank. As blue and pappy said, they are not the toughest fish. They could live in a tote, but it all depends on size. Tangs are not the fastest growing fish, so if you can get a 30+ gal storage tub, that would probably be ok for a couple of months.

    Good luck with this. It is a very nice deal btw.

    Oh, and I've been meaning to ask, where was the picture in your avatar taken?
     
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    I wouldn't...and 18-21 fish is quite a load for a 46 gallon tank given the temperaments of some of those fish. Filtration should be adequate but some of those species are going to get big and angry.
     
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    I agree, the current stocking is a litte iffy to begin with...fronts wouldn't do well in that tank.

    They would be fine for a few months in a large tote. I'd probably go with something over 30 gallons to be safe as Aj suggested.
     
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    Well as far as filtration its looking right at 13xx the tank size and with the temperments its pretty well managed the only one I have to deal with is my male peacock witch thinks he runs something but a few of the others have changed that over time
     
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    Its is very assorted in all ways but there are more females than males so the attitude is well rounded. I just have to have plenty of hiding and rock work.
     
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    Jiffy, please don't make the mistake of putting the fronts in that tank. There will be more aggression than you think. And on top of that, fronts are a very lazy species, and high activity fish are well known to stress them out. You are much better off to put them in a storage bin for a little while. These are awesome fish, and I would hate to see you lose them.
     
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    Agreed. Not to be too critical but in 6mo or so you'll need a 55 or 60g at least to support the fish you already have. Those fronts will get absolutely murdered by some of those other mbunas.
     
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    Aj is correct...fronts are predators but mainly opportunistic. They are not built to withstand the pressure from aggressive attackers like mbuna, especially at only 2". Even if space wasn't an issue I'd hesitate to put adults in a tank with that stock.
     
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    I made the same mistake a long long time ago when i first got into African Mbuna when i was a kid and i put 4 2" Front's in with Zebras they murdered them pretty fast..

    2" Front's will take 4 years to become partial mature with Males at 9" and Females at 6 to 7" very slow growers..
     

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