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Finally...Altums

Discussion in 'Angel Fish & Discus' started by Star_Rider, Aug 15, 2011.

  1. Star_Rider

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    Ordered from Houston aquarium warehouse..
    should be here Wed.
     
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    Congrats! Can't wait for pics! Any info on the tank they will be going in? Size? Tankmates? Filtration? Pics?
     
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    You should have waited a bit longer :). They should be offering Rio Atabapo Altums in September. Their current stock are from other rivers. Heiko claims the Atabapos are the best looking. Others say in the end, when grown, they all look the same. I will test this as I have had 8 for over a year and a half now.

    If you are not familiar with what it takes to keep newly imported wild altums alive, I suggest you join this site and do some fast reading on their forums http://www.finarama.com/ Thie site has some of the best wild angel info i have seen.
     
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    two tanksAmin.. already a member there
    matter of fact was suggested from someone there to go to HAW
    the qt is a 29 with RO/DI and peat to lower pH..my pH is already 6.8 from the tap with kh3-4 gh 7-8

    I'll be keeping the temp up around 84f
    eventually the Altums if they make it will be moved to a 75

    as to waiting.. last time I did that I missed out completely ;)
     
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    Congrats!
     
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    Star- do you have a UV sterilizer as well? I just got one for the Atabapos I hope to nab next month.
     
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    two tanks.. yes I do setting it on the tank today
     
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    :mwave: Congrats! Best of luck to ya!
     
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    HAW has been pretty good at communication.. their Altums are kept pH 6.4-6.8 tds 80- EC112 they do recommend lower pH and suggest slow acclimation to low pH(of course)
    I am running peat in my filter on the 20 with ro/di with UV set up tonite..
    will check pH tonite ..I smell like peat moss today..not my idea of cologne ;)
     
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    let m eknow if you want some almond leaves to help as well.
     
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    Rach.. I totally spaced.. those would be great..
     
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    Hey Star-rider! I am in WA too. And, in my area, I have been raising my Altums straight from the tap water. Our ph here is 6.8. I doubt that you need almond leaves, but doesn't hurt to use it if that make you feel 'safe'. (Don't shoot me :) if i am wrong...) Mine are very successful without.

    I got them last September, they will be 1 year old next month!
     
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    Lab_Rat Merry Christmas!

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    Very cool, can't wait to see pics when you get them!
     
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    Same, I'm excited for you Star LOL
     
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    HAW has been really great with communication.. Altums to arrive on Thursday.
    their water 6.4-6.8
    I am now prob going with mostly Tap as source water since my tap is 6.8.
    the idea will be to possibly lower pH if the Altums look stressed. the thought is low pH = low bacteria.. gives the Altums a better chance to slowly acclimate.
    so I'll test pH when the fish arrive and drip acclimate to new tank
     
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    From what I have read and learned from others who import altums (which you already probably know but I will say anyway), get that pH as LOW as possible. Where the altums are typically collected has basically NO bacteria count. Often if pH/hardness is even on the soft side, the angels react to the beneficial bacteria as some fish do to a cycling tank- i.e. clamped fins, extra mucous production, sitting on the bottom/lethargy (which can rub off their pelvic fins), and loss of appetite. This is of course most true for fish that are newly imported, rather than those that have already been acclimated.

    Edit: if you can, I would pre-treat your water change water with a peat bomb (tub set up with tons of peat granules/leaves/cones etc) so that you can match things as closely as possible.
     
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    peat bomb added to tank 2 days ago..pH when tested acid..color or test water.. light yellow 6.0 ? going to pick up new test kit at lunch since mine is old
    Rach all indication is to lower pH as you said
    there is some rumblings about acid beneficial bacteria..typically ammonia in acid pH is relatively safe existing as ammonium..lucky I have water holding p buckets to age water..a benefit to running salty tanks. RO/DI on premises with plenty of storage buckets to age water in.
    ;)

    I am excited with guarded caution as I have waited years to save up and finally find Altums.. my timing has always been off with them.
    the Holy Grail of Angelfish Keepers.
    I was lucky with Peru Altums(P.Scalare) and they have been great fish
     
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    I cannot think of someone better to give it a go!! Fingers crossed and all my best fishkeepign mojo sent your way :D
     
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