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Will these pc parts be good?

Discussion in 'General Chit-Chat' started by nerdyrcdriver, Feb 12, 2012.

  1. nerdyrcdriver

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    Ok, so a while back I asked if I should get a laptop or desktop for my birthday. I have decided I want to build a desktop for myself after doing it for other people for 2 years. But my friend (not able to contact right now) was always the one who selected the parts. I just put the system together.

    So here it goes


    I chose to go with an amd apu for price to performance since I am not a HUGE gamer but I enjoy the casual game and hd video playback
    amd FX-4100 apu
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details_ss.asp?
    EdpNo=1372438&pagenumber=1&RSort=1&csid=ITD&recordsPerPage=5&body=REVIEWS#CustomerReviewsBlock


    gigabyte motherboard
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details_ss.asp?EdpNo=1241995&CatId=7241

    power supply. I realize that 550w may be a bit overkill, but I want to be able to upgrade to a nice gpu later on if I so desire.
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details_ss.asp?EdpNo=1147669&CatId=1079

    cooler master haf 912
    [h=1]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details_ss.asp?EdpNo=6531504&CatId=1509[/h]
    8gb of patriot g2 series ram
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details_ss.asp?EdpNo=7114145&CatId=4534

    corsair h60 just because. Not needed, but I have wanted one and could probably use it in future builds. (might go for the h80)
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details_ss.asp?EdpNo=7335485&Sku=C13-2527

    and of course a dvd burner. Just picked it because it was black. But since the rest of the case inside is silver, I might go for an lg model.
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details_ss.asp?EdpNo=1387814&CatId=1624

    I would just use my current hdds (for a total of 400gb). Paying $75 for $500 gb doesnt make sense right now if I already have hdds. I have a 120gb ide I can throw in my current computer and hand down to my little bro.

    I have a nice keyboard and mouse combo I like already. And I have dual 19in monitors that I like to use.

    Since I broke $400 I might as well make the budget $450 and upgrade to the h80 so I can control the pump speed and that will in turn control the fan speed as well. So when it is just being used for internet browsing and stuff it should be fairly quiet.
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details_ss.asp?EdpNo=581559&CatId=499
     
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    i say it looks like a good way to spend 450 lol
     
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    Yeah, the rough total with the h80 instead of h60 is $422 then tax. I dont NEED the water cooling, but I want to be the first at the club with it. If I went without it, I would probably be fine and it would be a $330 computer instead. I will see how much I actually get for my b day.
     
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    nice good choice in parts tho
     
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    kj5kb KEEPER OF CATS, FISH AND CATFISHES

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    I would ditch the water cooling and put the money toward a faster CPU with a good fan and heatsink.

    Other than that it looks reasonable. Way faster than anything I have here.
     
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    So. If you're not going to be heavy into gaming, why liquid cooling? I know a lot of people that do a lot of gaming, and only one has liquid cooling. Of course, this person is unemployed (lots of money in the bank due to a few won lawsuits) by choice, and literally plays games 14+ hours per day. Yes, 14+ hours per day. Not many people like this person enough to spend time with her face to face, so games are pretty much the only available avenue for socialization. And no, if you're wondering, I'm not one of the people willing to speak to her if I can avoid it. I'm just friendly with her roommate.

    If you're unsure how much power you need, newegg.com has a calculator. Plug in the hardware, and it spits out a wattage.
     
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    Thanks for the calculator tip. LOL, what I plugged in said 269w. But I plan on possibly upgrading in the future to a dedicated gpu.

    As for the liquid cooling, it is something new for me to try. Something for me to say I have and no one else in the club has. Plus in the summer I plan to up my gaming. I am doing it now, but am limited to the specs of my current computer.
     
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    Just knowing the play that the people I know put their air cooled pcs through, without issue, I find it hard to justify getting liquid cooling, both cost and effort wise. Also, if I recall correctly, not all motherboards and cpus are compatible with liquid cooling, but I'm sure there's a way around it.

    Like someone else said, though, instead of doing the liquid cooling, I'd either go for a decent GPU now, or get a faster processor. IMO, actual performance is more important than being able to say I'm the only one with liquid cooling. If you go liquid cooling just for the bragging rights, it's like like having a car that you race with that you've spent a lot of money on to be able to say that you have oak paneling and doveskin leather inside, instead of spending the money on better performance.
     
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    True, but I am used to my 1.6ghz pentium dual core. a 3.6ghz 3.8 max turbo quad core is going to be much faster. I am starting to piece together a system with an amd six core and air cooling.

    This wont be my only pc build, I could always use the liquid cooling again when I get to a higher end system. I know people have overclocked and been stable with the stock fan that comes with the apu. And the $ from the liquid cooling could go to a dedicated gpu.

    Time to go finish piecing together a second system with a dedicated gpu and a six core.
     
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    Ok, pc number 2

    amd 6 core processor with 14mb cash (total l3 and L2) 3.30ghz (3.90 max turbo)
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1239961&CatId=7341

    asus mobo
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1418809&CatId=7245

    same ram Patriot g2 series 8gb
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details_ss.asp?EdpNo=7114145&CatId=4534

    msi 6770 twin frozr 2 OC
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1078875&CatId=7005

    lg dvd burner
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=431640&CatId=1624

    cooler master haf 912 case
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details_ss.asp?EdpNo=6531504&CatId=1509

    Totals $445 plus tax and I still need to choose a good psu.

    Possibly this nzxt case instead of the haf 912.
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5222597&CatId=1509

    Would still cost the same.

    I like this system much more, but what power supply?

    Oh, and there is no liquid cooling, just air for now. Unless someone can recommend a better air cooler that doesnt break the bank at the same price as liquid cooling.
     
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    i'd ditch the liquid cooling for eternity, personally. i'd replace it with a 750 watt antec or similar power supply.

    you'll probably have that power supply for near a lifetime and it'll do you quite well unless you start daisy chaining GPU's.

    the liquid cooling on the other hand is way expensive and nearly useless.

    i like that nzxt case, personally because of the e-sata port. for an extra couple dollars over a budget case, it's a good purchase that can be utilized for years to come.

    a little tip with AMD processors... regardless what line you're looking at, always try to get the black box version. they're always more stable, better performers and more capable of over clocking.
     
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    That is the unlocked one of the fx series of chips. I dont plan to over clock it much unless I get some sort of after market cooler, still, Probably to like 3.6 or 3.8 if I could manage that and make it stable. Tiger direct/comp usa (local) didnt really have much for amd 6 cores (idk if many exist at all anyway).

    So my plan is

    the amd processor (not the apu)
    the asus mobo
    whatever dvd burner they have in stock at the store under $30 (or I could steal the one out of this computer for a while)
    the nxzt case (I like the looks more and I dont need a high air flow case) (or whatever case I choose that they have in stock at the store. I dont think that one is available in my area)
    Whatever ram they have in stock at the store (nothing low end though)
    someone on rctech suggested this psu
    http://www.compusa.com/applications...ffiliateID=je6NUbpObpQ-sDeAzB4vXkqaDmfoZtB9lg

    And I have no idea which gpu.

    Here are the options so far
    http://www.compusa.com/applications...CmtB5ObkkzCjCVqHCjCdwwp&cpncode=30-28025407-2


    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...CmtB5ObkkzCjCVqHCjCdwwp&cpncode=30-28025506-2

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1078875&CatId=7005

    The top one being the one the person on rc tech linked.

    This thread is moving a LOT faster on rctech so here is a link to the thread over there. I kind of act a bit differently over there than I do here because there are people that just go in to mess with the thread and stuff. Oh, the link is to page 2 and there is some other stuff on page 1.

    http://www.rctech.net/forum/chat-lounge/598341-will-make-good-pc-2.html

    Thanks for the input guys! I may know how to build the computer, but I am still a noob to choosing components that I want and stuff.

    Edit: dun, I thought I mentioned that I decided to just go with the stock cpu cooler or a possible after market one. But not the liquid cooling yet. Maybe down the line.
     
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    Ok, so I looked through cases, and the only one in my price range that I liked and they carry locally so I dont have to order, is this one. It looks pretty nice, and I can always add some cold cathodes or blue led fans to spruce it up a bit. Plus it is a good price and has an all black interior. I think this is the case of choice for me. I like the nzxt one, but I dont want to have to order it and wait like two weeks for the free shipping when I can buy everything else in store the day after my birthday. Man I got lucky this year, my b day is the day before spring break so I have a week and a half or so to build my computer. Of course if I get everything the first day or two I will have it done in 3 days. 1-2 of getting the parts and building on top of the mobo box to make sure everything works and to install drivers and stuff. Then a day to put it all in the case and make it look cool.

    http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6430030&CatId=1509
     
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    I'd avoid the ati video cards. Chances are, if you have a game that's at all graphics intensive, and you have gpu issues, you're using an ati gpu. Nvidia ,for being at a similar price point, seems to have far fewer issues. Regardless of which direction you go there, review *carefully* when you look at them. For example, an nvidia 260 is a better performer than a 440. The nomenclature used in gpu model naming is horrid. Read reviews. Lots and lots of reviews.
     
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    Oh, and as far as cases go, I'm a big fan of the Antec Skeleton. That's going to be my next case, sometime this year, I think. I don't know if it has eSATA, and I know it doesn't have USB 3.0, but I still like the look of the case. My friend that lives across the street ended up with a CoolerMaster Storm Trooper. It's a pricier tower, but this thing is a well balanced beast with ample room for everything, including a ridiculous quantity and size of fans. He'll probably have it forever.
     
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    I like the antec skeleton but have no area to put it around my desk. When I saw the vid of it at ces I wanted it. I dont really care if the case I get has e sata or not. I probably wouldnt ever use it.
     
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    yup... you caught me skimming. i noticed it, but not much on time this week, so i left it. besides... unless you're putting uber cash flow into a system, liquid cooling is nothing but something to talk about and show off.

    i still like that nzxt case. front audio/mic and usb/e-sata ports are priceless to me.
     
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    Lol, I have a thing meant for a usb wifi thing to be extended away from the back of your computer. Basically just a usb extension cable but it is weighted down. Very convienet for my flash drives and stuff. I would honestly never use the e sata, but the cooler master case does have 2 front usb and front mic and headphone jacks (what I have now). Oh, I have a 5 1/4 in card reader I would probably throw in the system as well. Not much, but it is handy with my memory stick pro duos for my psp. I like the nzxt case, but unless I knew like 2 weeks a head of time I wouldnt have it on time to have the pc done before I go back to school after spring break. Plus it doesnt have an all black interior.
     
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    Lol, I have a thing meant for a usb wifi thing to be extended away from the back of your computer. Basically just a usb extension cable but it is weighted down. Very convienet for my flash drives and stuff. I would honestly never use the e sata, but the cooler master case does have 2 front usb and front mic and headphone jacks (what I have now). Oh, I have a 5 1/4 in card reader I would probably throw in the system as well. Not much, but it is handy with my memory stick pro duos for my psp. I like the nzxt case, but unless I knew like 2 weeks a head of time I wouldnt have it on time to have the pc done before I go back to school after spring break. Plus it doesnt have an all black interior.
     

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