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Young Goldfish with ammonia burn

Discussion in 'Coldwater Illness and Disease' started by beabroca, Aug 21, 2009.

  1. beabroca

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    My Mother in Laws cousin had a fish that she raved about.
    We went to see her new home and it was a tiny 1 inch fancy tailed goldfish in a 1 gallon bowl.

    I was disgusted. And then she pointed out how he was changing colors and didnt know why, he had all black gills and black tipped fins. and black spot on the top of his head.

    I didn't know what it was so when i got home i looked it up...i was so hurt when i seen that her fish had ammonia burn. I still am hurt looking at her.
    Anyways i called her and told her she was hurting the fish and if she didnt mind i would take it for her. She was hurt by that too so i took the fish. Until [so she says] she gets a bigger tank. [not that i believe it]

    Anyways, shes not acting so much in Pain now, like rubbing against things and swimming very quickly and rubbing against things.
    I put her in with my other goldfish and she is tiny compared to them. They are all 4 1/2 inches and shes a mere 1. But they are not mean to her at all.

    My question is , will this 'burn' go away? and how long will it bother her? I am worried because now shes in this bigger tank , and the water is clear, i can see her better and it looks very bad.

    she likes to keep to herself. im sure its because shes used to 1 gallon of acid in a unfiltered bowl.

    Hopefully you guys say she'll be alright...hope i saved a fishy life today.
     
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    She should be fine. Just make sure you check the ammonia levels in your tank periodically. Go to your LFS and get "melafix" and apply proper dosage
     
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    i need to treat the entire tank then?
     
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    Keep a watch on your water parameters. What are your ammonia, nitrite and nitrate right now with the additional fish?

    That is indeed ammonia burn. All you need is water changes. Don't waste your time on dosing Melafix.
     
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    No, you wouldn't treat the whole tank, you would quarantine the fish. You could treat the whole tank, but I wouldn't. Melafix is mostly just a way to speed up the process of healing so listen to Lupin as he is a goldfish master anyway =).
     
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    UPDATE: the little fish has gills sticking out all over him and swimming fast and they fall off. he looks terrible.

    parems.

    ammonia 0
    nitrites 0
    nitrates between 0 and 5 not quite as dark as 5.
    ph 7.4


    im using a liquid test. but she seems to only be getting worse.
    shes still very active and eating well.

    is this a hopeless case?
     
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    I had an injured one a while back, and it does look nasty when the dead bits turn colors and start to fall off, especially when they are hanging there like zombie wrappings, but it means the fish is healing. I hope this is what is happening with your little one.

    Jen
     
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    Bea- don't give up. I had a fish named "Burnie" (can you guess why?) before I knew any better, and he got very severe ammonia burn ( as in an orange Ryukin turned 1/4 black.) I am ashamed of this story, but it had a happy ending. Burnie recovered completely, grew back beautiful, glossy orange scales and lived for a long time. All I did was keep the params stable and keep the water spotless.
     
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    Kudos for the rescue--hopefully your relative will understand it was the right thing to do.
     
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    ammonia burn goes away with just good water parameters. using melafix is unnecessary. My Mom's fish before we knew about fish had severe ammonia burn and all she did was keep the water pristine and he lived for years
     
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    update on PHILLY : She seems to be doing alittle better. she is loosing black off her fins and lessening on her gills. But To me it still looks really bad, But about a 25% improvement from last post.

    She likes to hang around with the cory cat (single cory...was from another tank...no where to put him so put him in here, been there for months doing well.) she is about the same size as the cory and they swim back and forth together...

    I think she thinks shes a catfish. She seems very happy and eating well.
     
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    I wouldn't use melafix on a goldfish and especially one that has gill damage.
     
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    bea, I hope your fish is doing better! remember that black marks are a good sign, a sign of healing. like a bruise for humans. best of luck to your little rescue goldie.
     
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    update on Philly----She is doing soo much better...the black is almost completely gone, she still has a small black lined lip. and a small small small spot on one of her gills. But overall a very good improvement. She has grown so much and fits right in with the other goldfish that seem so large compared to her. She seems happier. and now is very active...color is well...eats as if she were a horse..but i understand she has to keep up with the big dogs of the tank :)

    I feel very happy i rescued her, I feel like she'd be gone if i wouldnt have gotten her.
     
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    Hello everyone,

    I rescued a gorgeous White fantail with orangeish gold eyes from walmart last week...his bottom fin was all eaten up and had the makings of a bleeding wound. i took him hime and quarantined him and have been treating with melafix...this is day 5 of 7 day treatment. i wake up this am and he has black spots on his gills! oh i almost cried! so i did a water change but my questrion is why would he get an ammonia burn while he is receiving melafix? his wound is clearing up nicely but im so hurt that i burned him!! crapola! should i discontinue the melafix?
     
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    Ammonia is extremely potent stuff. How do you know it's an ammonia burn, have you tested your water with a liquid test kit?

    I would advise against "saving" animals from stores in the future. While you may feel that you swooped in and removed an animal from a bad situation, you are giving the company in question your money. Giving the company money is a victory for the company, and they'll just order another little goldfish to take the place of the one they sold to you. It's a vicious cycle that never ends, until the consumers stop feeding them cash.
     
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    Fortunately, Carch, I hear Walmart is discontinuing the sale of live fish. They will only sell the tanks and decor. Atleast thisis what I hear. I hope it is true. I know my local Walmarts no longer sell fish. But I do agree with what you are saying.
     
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    yeah, I know he was just so beautiful and I couldnt stand him being in there with no plants, substrate...nothing! but tons of other fish! but anywho, i havent done a test with a water kit...i only have the strips at the moment and i know everyone says they stink but its all i have rightnow...im just going from what i have researched and what i ahve seen/read on here...but i was kind of curious...i didnt see any reddening before the black? if it was ammonia, would I have?
     
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    Hi,

    I have a goldfish that I just medicated for Velvet, and he has recovered and is doing well and swimming and eating very healthy.

    However, now he has black on the edges of his fins and tail, which look like ammonia burn. I have researched this, and if it is ammonia burn, he is on the right track to recovery with good water quality, etc. There was a slight reading of ammonia after the medication that I used for the Velvet, but it was very low. Now the tank is back in line with the correct readings for a cycled tank.

    Are the black marks ammonia burn, or could they be signs of healing from the Velvet?

    Thanks
     

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