Mafia #20 - Pirates of the Carribean the Play

mee-mee said:

So Blu, tell me your gut feeling about me...

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To answer your question mee-mee, its plainly stated in what I said.

MeeMee, something isnt right with her, call it a gut feeling if you will, I cant put my finger on it.

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My list was a list of ppl that have caught my attention, as I said in a later thread when asked for more thoughts. I dont recall playing many games with you , so Im not sure how to take you at this time. Keep posting tho, it will determine if there is something there for me to put my finger on.

At this point, RB is really moving up there on my suspect list. Mainly because of the LG post times. In the games that I have played, Ive always looked forward to logging on in the am to see what LG has said overnight.

Im not seeing as much from Ice or HN as I would expect to. That may be becuase there are so many posts and its not that they are posting any less, just it appears that they are becuase things are moving so fast. Altho they both have an aggresive play style, which brings to mind Grins.

It seems as tho Grins has made herself the one to call everyone out for there posting, almost like a teacher scolding a child for talking in class. While I think its great to knock down doors, and hunt down the mafia, this does seem a bit overboard to me. Its as tho shes pointing fingers and calling ppl out to take the attention off herself, and is TRYING to make herself look innocent. Going overbaord so she can in turn say "im hleping the town" when the finger is pointed back at her, when in all reality she could be taking the attention off herself by keeping herself in the forefront of things.

As far as my posting, its no differnt than usual. Im an observer, sometimes it pays to close your mouth and open your ears. Or in this case, stop typing and start reading. Its my style.

rbishop said:

Nope. want you and others to vote for who you think is a pirate. I'll post my thoughts as I can and hopefully with good results. I currently see a lot of activity by two good players and a crap load of non-participants. Something you and hook have had issues with, along with me.

When you only have a few folks actively participating, you either team up on one of them or chose a middle of the road player to hassle. I know Judge can play well....she just isn't playing or is laying low....must be hard for her since I know you all but have to gag and chain her from posting.

We have some players coming in with their once every 20-36 posts and they still skim by without attention. Either the active folks know who they are and are letting them lay low without attention or they are on a mission to set up a lynch for the town.

I'll pull posts on folks as I can and if I see something special, my vote will change, but for now it is on judge and will stay there, like last night, until she convinces me she is a townie.

Oh, yeah, as clown suggested...I really recommend all go back and read the rules and think way outside the box....

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Even if you're a pirate, and should be no shocker that I think you are, you're not the only one. So by all means present cases against others so we can figure out who they might all be. And like you, my vote will stay for the moment but will change if a stronger contender for pirate surfaces. It's going to need to be pretty darn strong by the way.

Blueiz said:

To answer your question mee-mee, its plainly stated in what I said.


My list was a list of ppl that have caught my attention, as I said in a later thread when asked for more thoughts. I dont recall playing many games with you , so Im not sure how to take you at this time. Keep posting tho, it will determine if there is something there for me to put my finger on.

At this point, RB is really moving up there on my suspect list. Mainly because of the LG post times. In the games that I have played, Ive always looked forward to logging on in the am to see what LG has said overnight.

Im not seeing as much from Ice or HN as I would expect to. That may be becuase there are so many posts and its not that they are posting any less, just it appears that they are becuase things are moving so fast. Altho they both have an aggresive play style, which brings to mind Grins.

It seems as tho Grins has made herself the one to call everyone out for there posting, almost like a teacher scolding a child for talking in class. While I think its great to knock down doors, and hunt down the mafia, this does seem a bit overboard to me. Its as tho shes pointing fingers and calling ppl out to take the attention off herself, and is TRYING to make herself look innocent. Going overbaord so she can in turn say "im hleping the town" when the finger is pointed back at her, when in all reality she could be taking the attention off herself by keeping herself in the forefront of things.

As far as my posting, its no differnt than usual. Im an observer, sometimes it pays to close your mouth and open your ears. Or in this case, stop typing and start reading. Its my style.

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So let me get this straight Blue... you're calling for players to post more and saying that I've not been agressive (for the 2nd time)?

You've not posted much at all and I've gone after a few people including Rb, JM, LG, DD, Mad, and beth (unfortunately an innocent in Beth). Right now of the one's I've questioned, I think JM, Rb, and DD are my top suspects but based on this post you are climbing the ladder quick. Who exactly have you gone after? Who'd you put your hit on last night?

Madcrawdad said:

RB, for me, it's not about who you voted for....the thing is though, you basically implied that it was a random vote (which some folks may do on Day 1). In the same post, though, you basically called LG a pirate. Wouldn't it have made more sense to vote LG instead of the random vote on JM?

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rbishop said:

No.

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Seems a little strange. You've been riding LG hard, and then go with the vote for Judge. Based on her recent list, though, I agree that Judge could be scum. Late in day 2 is getting a little late to say that someone is mafia because they just seem 'off' or something just doesn't seem right.

Right now, I'm kind of liking you and Judge. You're both calling each other scum, but neither have much of a reason...both kind of claiming more gut feel than anything.

Problem is, I don't ever believe the sacrificial lamb theories....it's never happened. I think that this may be a case of distancing gone bad.

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Blue, needs to post more..though I know she isn't one to post just to post...but inactivity means you you are presenting minimal chance of a slip up and really isn't helpful to the town in the long run. It is bad when they have posted so little, you can't even lean them one way or another.

Lchap....leaning pirate...he seems to be very good as a newbie...at least as a newbie here....

DD....don't trust...no way...no how...could go either way, but slightly leaning innocent...it almost bothers me that some of the low, infrequent posters only come out to attack her.....

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I too wish that Blue would post more. I can't tell much at all from what she has said; not with her role or with who might be pirates in the game.

Which of the low infrequent posters are you seeing only coming out to attack DD?

Again, I don't trust you Bob COUGHpirateCOUGH, but I'll listen to your theories.

judgemax said:

OK, here is my opinion on the players of this game, thus far...

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So after 836 posts you have JL, LC, Mal, and MeeMee listed as pirates.

Hmm JL I can understand.

LC is so flipping confused about whether he can edit posts, if you're a man, if RB is you or if LG is Rb that it is difficult to believe he is being coached. LC if you are being coached, I suggest you kick some of the passed out pirates awake and tell them to do a better job.

Mal, eh maybe. But she sure isn't high on my radar.

Mee-Mee. OK, do me a favor...what is is that she is doing so badly that shows she is a pirate? JL who you listed as a pirate is saying the same thing about her. JPap who you also listed as "leaning more guilty" also said MeeMee was acting like mafia. They haven't convinced me she is a pirate, maybe you JM COUGHpirateCOUGH can.

judgemax said:

lmao! I vote to make LC walk the plank! , i am very tired, ..sorry!

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Too much pirate rum JM?

Blueiz said:

Im not seeing as much from Ice or HN as I would expect to. That may be becuase there are so many posts and its not that they are posting any less, just it appears that they are becuase things are moving so fast. Altho they both have an aggresive play style, which brings to mind Grins.

It seems as tho Grins has made herself the one to call everyone out for there posting, almost like a teacher scolding a child for talking in class. While I think its great to knock down doors, and hunt down the mafia, this does seem a bit overboard to me. Its as tho shes pointing fingers and calling ppl out to take the attention off herself, and is TRYING to make herself look innocent. Going overbaord so she can in turn say "im hleping the town" when the finger is pointed back at her, when in all reality she could be taking the attention off herself by keeping herself in the forefront of things.

As far as my posting, its no differnt than usual. Im an observer, sometimes it pays to close your mouth and open your ears. Or in this case, stop typing and start reading. Its my style.

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Blue, I've been questioned since early in day one and I've answered direct questions gladly. I've not attemped to hide behind pleas of only trying to help. Call my method overboard or what you will but if I have actually said something that leads you to believe I'm suspicious then list it. For someone that has been observing and opening your ears as you said, you'd have found something if it exists in 850 posts.

An innocent wouldn't leave the other innocents to have to find it themselves, not when we're down Mg, Beth and now Lupin. If you're mafia, you're just trying to toss heat away from your pirate ship.

Double checking...but who got more aggressive after the Lupin disaster?

Right now it stands that there are 5-7 pirates...worst case, 7
We've lost 3 innocents. Worst case we started with 9, so there are 6 left.
1 thief.

If we were looking at worse-case, the pirates could consolidate their votes already, and unless EVERY innocent/thief voted for someone else (unlikely) they'd win. That makes me think that the pirates have started with less then 7 players...or they're playing a lot more cautiously then I would in their place. Still, we can't afford to lose another innocent.

Best case scenario: 5 Pirates left
Innocents: 11-3.....8 left.
1 thief.

Other Scenario: 6 Pirates left
Innocents: 10-3....7 left
1 thief.

I believe we're looking at the the best case, or other scenario...the Pirates are still trying to get us to lynch our own, but can't do so by themselves...not yet...

My suspects as pirate right now:
RB...for much of the same reasons everyone else is on him.
JM....I think RB and JM have been distancing themselves since day 1, and continue to do so.
DD....Merely cause she's attacking me...

As I'm not going to do an OMGUS vote against DD...it's possible she does see me as a pirate and is trying to keep eyes open with more then one possible target...and I'm just letting my personal feelings get in the way...

I will do an OMGUS vote against JM. I do think he's a pirate trying to get attention on me and off of RB. Oh, and it'll make the game interesting with everyone trying to read into it.
I vote to make JM walk the plank.

rbishop said:

Seems several of you are overly concerned about my vote on judge. Would you have preferred me to be on Beth?

You are right, several others had lower post counts than judge. I never said I was voting for the LOWEST poster. At the time of my vote on judge, she had posted absolutely nothing but fluff and she is a better player than that.

In fact, so many of you seemed to be concerned about it, it causes me to have deep concerns about you. Need to protect an associate...?

I vote to make Judgemax walk the plank....

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And these deep concerns would be about who? Why??

rbishop said:

Lady G...I never stated you only posted late at night, I said you were sneaking in and posting late at night....

Game 17....244 posts....184 of them in the 6 AM to 9 PM time frame, 60 of them in the 9 PM to 6 AM time frame

This Game...49 posts...24 of them in the 6 AM - 9 PM, 25 in the 9 PM - 6 AM....

Your current posting has shifted greatly to late at night, where you fail to face confrontation.....

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LOL, I am not sneaking in posts, anyone can come on anytime and question me..I answer to them. So your post here shows BOTH games you have quoted I have posted LATE NIGHT POSTS, Thank you for clearing that up for everyone...see it is NOT just this game. OH wait you didn't go back games did you, you are trying to prove your point that the last couple games I have "secretly" came in late at night posting, why did you not go back any further RB, afraid you'd be showing that in fact I post late night ALL games???? Another difference you fail to mention is that game 17 was an ENTIRE game, this is only day two...guess what after tomorrow, I will be able to post more during all times of the day because I will be off of work until Sat. Morning.

rbishop said:

Skimming again Ice, or just trying to continue the choo-choo? If you don't agree with the poster, it is easy to say their info doesn't help. When you know your team mates it is easy to pick your alignment.

I am looking at JM, Jpap, JL66 and you mainly...though I seriously think Malbri is getting some very recent coaching....she couldn't make the posts she did today without a lot of advice. Everything up till now has just been the normal chat room comments from her and she has just repeated back what so many of you are jumping on.

Remember, you asked....be sure to turn it into a defensive post from me.

It is amazing you can conclude two posts from some one as helping when they have basically ignored the game. Ice, do you know of anyone who stated they were going to vote for the low posters because they deserved it, newbies or night.....I could link you to it, but just do a thread search for your name in the sign up thread. Guess, I'll add you to my target list of those to lynch, Ice.

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Oh, wait...I'm not on that list??? Why all the post against me then RB, do you normally question and drill those (also tell untruths about )those that you are NOT suspicious of??? Hmmm, strange way to hunt the evils down, call out those you DON"T find suspicious.

johnlarson66 said:

I am still in meetings. We were talking about going to a 'Canes game, but we are still going over things.

I have read the thread. I think there is a clue about who was protected in Clowns narration.

I am bummed out about Lupin UD'ing. How come it always seem like innocents UD?

I still think mee-mee needs some votes on her. I think she is a pirate and will crack once she gets a few votes on her. The first reason I voted for her is that she was defending jpap for his lack of posting. Then she gave me a OMGUS vote. Also, I expected more posting from her at this point in the game.

I vote to have mee-mee walk the plank.

I hope to have some more time to post. The house I am sleeping at does not have internet.

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Well, John you just stepped up a bit in my eyes, not that I am saying Meems is innocent. But you say you have read the thread, you know we are down 3 innocent then right?? So why would you vote MM, one ppl are just kinda watching at the moment instead of the ones most are suspicious of...any thoughts on any other players??
Obviously there is a clue in Clowns post, we have already discussed that, it said a guy that didn't vote Beth basically, let see YOU didn't and one of the leading suspects (RB) didn't, I can't believe this is all we get from you.

rbishop said:

I actually do not have a case against Lady right now, I do like to argue with her though. If you get her riled enough she slips up and starts posting like a whacko...she goes and grabs 10 or 15 quotes and talks about them all at once keeping others confused and then she gets caught in her lies.

She is doin a pretty good job of it and I have her leaning more pirate than innocent. Did you notice the bull crap about when she normally posts....all you have to do is go back and check previous games and you you will find she is tap dancing...or doing a jig....

I am sure RL issues will be spit forth to explain the difference in posting times....

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Again, LOL...there is not bull crap about me always posting late...it is a fact, I have always posted late...no I am not saying ALL my posts are late, but you are trying to insinuate that I JUST started this in the last couple games, No tap dancing, no jig.
So you openly admit you have no case on me, you don't have me on your list as the above post shows, you just like arguing with me. Wait, you have me leaning more pirate, but RB...why am I not on your list??? Again, there is no difference in posting times, you showed that yourself. Yes, this game I have posted more in late night, but I also posted late night last game...you know the one you showed. So sorry, you are the one lying here, not me..and openly I might add.

rbishop said:

I am not bringing it up as a fault DD, after my claim of her posting mainly at late night, she claimed that was normal....go back and look at the other games yourself, actually put some time and effort into as I have. It is a false statement on her behalf. &5% of her posts in the game I noted are in the time frame most of the players here post in....it has switched for 50/50. I don't care the reason why. To lie about it and say it is normal is wrong.

You will find my stance as true, regardless of when the game started....it mat be more true for a weekend but that is only two days, over all, she posts heavily in the normal hours except for this game. By the way she is close to falling into her rambling stage making fights out of anything.
Wow, you are really stuck on this. Sorry I don't have internet connection at my work, so no I can't post between 5pm-2am alot of days...OH ooops did I add a RL issue there RB, Oh you also said you only post before and after work, didn't you. Guess it is ok for you but not others Oh, my bad sorry about that.
You would see that if you played more actively.

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Oh, you just keep saying that RB, maybe it will magically become true:liar:, as I said, MANY MANY times, I work 5pm (sometimes 6pm)-2am (sometimes later), MON, TUES, & WED every week after wed., I will be posting more Thur, and Fri off and on at all times...Sat, it wont be until after 3-4pm. Sundays, it will be all day.

LesbianChap said:

Double checking...but who got more aggressive after the Lupin disaster?

Right now it stands that there are 5-7 pirates...worst case, 7
We've lost 3 innocents. Worst case we started with 9, so there are 6 left.
1 thief.

If we were looking at worse-case, the pirates could consolidate their votes already, and unless EVERY innocent/thief voted for someone else (unlikely) they'd win. That makes me think that the pirates have started with less then 7 players...or they're playing a lot more cautiously then I would in their place. Still, we can't afford to lose another innocent.

Best case scenario: 5 Pirates left
Innocents: 11-3.....8 left.
1 thief.

Other Scenario: 6 Pirates left
Innocents: 10-3....7 left
1 thief.

I believe we're looking at the the best case, or other scenario...the Pirates are still trying to get us to lynch our own, but can't do so by themselves...not yet...

My suspects as pirate right now:
RB...for much of the same reasons everyone else is on him.
JM....I think RB and JM have been distancing themselves since day 1, and continue to do so.
DD....Merely cause she's attacking me...

As I'm not going to do an OMGUS vote against DD...it's possible she does see me as a pirate and is trying to keep eyes open with more then one possible target...and I'm just letting my personal feelings get in the way...

I will do an OMGUS vote against JM. I do think he's a pirate trying to get attention on me and off of RB. Oh, and it'll make the game interesting with everyone trying to read into it.
I vote to make JM walk the plank.

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I have to say I agree with what you say in this post. I sure hope you are an innocent. The JM, RB thing actually makes since to me. I have to tell you though Jmax is not a he but a she, LOL!