Mafia #23 Revenge

Wow, it has been nuts! I have spent more than an hour trying to catch up and posting what I at first thought would be a simple combined post.

So far I'm doing just as well this game as an innocent as I did two games ago as an innocent...I didn't mean for my post to sound like I'm taking my marbles and going elsewhere...Just choosing to play differently and see what happens.

I just don't get it LC, if you were one of us in town how would you take your posts thus far in the game?

However, Grins, sorry dear... you just aren't sitting right with me... here's two examples.


I find this questionable. I see what your point is in trying to retract the thought but the problem is, it's already out there. When someone comes to quote on anything, and they get this first post, they are supposed to get this retraction too?
I never understood how they could retract things in the court room either though, with the Jury hearing it anyway. Always bothered me, and here I see now, it still does.


ok, the marine threads are the marine threads, Grins. There was a discussion last game about the difficulties in keeping Cory and Clown separate because of the initials... did you forget that?

I made a mistake when not removing part of something that I no longer had a question to. I can't imagine that would be that difficult to believe considering how long the post was I made and how small the edit box can be. I can understand why you'd question it in a day one but at the very least consider that I immediately tried to be fair to Beth and put a correction out there. Personally someone leaving something out there that they know is false is scummier to me than a typo.

On the CL thing..it just makes me think of Clown is all. I have had limited interaction with Cory (it is still freaky to type that in this game by the way). If the whole thing causes you much concern OK then but frankly I'm still wanting to know why ILB would copy Cory, Clown, you, me, or anyone's vote post.

My guess is she picked mine because we are internet friends sorta.

Maybe but I still find it odd. I believe it could just be newbie carelessness but so much of what she has said has seemed off I can't help but question it.

I did not say he forgot to add you, I said that it was a possibility, but since you told me what happened, I have not denied that you pm'ed him
This is so irrelevent, it doesnt matter how you joined

Do you at least see that when he joined matters in that he can't possibly be mafia at this point in the game? He could not have been assigned a power role, and as he wasn't here when the game began he cannot be one of the first picks made by a don. He can become one later but that doesn't mean he is one now.

and with that...
I retract my vote for ilb and vote to lynch kotd

Mal, for the love of the flipping town and getting the mafia wake up. He can not be mafia right now. If you are going after KotD before the next don picks you are not paying attention and failing to place your vote on a potential mafia member.

That's a possibility. You asked about why I thought he was more innocent than Jmax right now and I posted them. And, you are right up there with the "power players" now so quit trying to play the damsel. (Like the evil saltie reference?)

lol, I like the damsel reference yes but since they are in the same family as clowns don't be surprised if you know who questions your post now. ***OMG, you twit! I just read down to the post where you actually thought of that post when in traffic not because of something I said. :silly:

Honestly, I disagree. I think judge is innocent. I will tell you my evidence if you want, but if we both get killed because of it, you can't blame me
WTF IS THAT?..:banher:
:popcorn:
Pass me the plate of chocolate bonbons, Grins.

You sure you want them after Clown likened me to Eric Cartman?

I do actually hope judge is mafia(she is going to die anyway tonight, if rbi goes through with what he told me), I just dont think she is

Ok, here is the crazy logic:
I dont think she is mafia becuase I think she truely thinks I am mafia. Me, know in I am innocent, said something that connected us, and she totally avoided any kind of connection. If she were mafia, she would see an innocent that may get lynched soon trying to connect with them, and they would embrace it, becuase when the innocent died it would make them look good for having connections with them. Then again, even if she is mafia, she cant be sure im innocent....
Whos lost?:)

Hold on, I need a translator...someone? Anyone?

Wow a lot can happen when typing up a post.

None of that even made sense. How can RB peg JM for a 1st night death?

Then your post while I understand what you're trying to say makes no sense if RB was going to off JM tonight anyway according to you.

Anyone else think Mal is the Don and chose JM as her partner?

I found it hilarious to see you retracting your vote from Mal right after all that, I figured you hadn't yet gotten to her posts.

I do find it possible that Mal is the Don but right now I'm more inclined to think some are just plain crazy or high. :lipssealedsmilie:

And forgive me if I'm acting like mafia, or not reading enough, or what ever the heck you can find that's wrong about people. THIS IS A COMPUTER GAME!

It is just a game ILB, so relax. As the rules warn your patience will be tried in this game. Goodness only knows mine is trying to follow the bizarre reasoning of some.

Over 600 posts and day one isnt done with yet...wow.. I can barely keep up.

Welcome back to the madness.

A couple of things that Grins said today have piqued my interest:

In this quote below, Grins responds to Ogre's reason for voting her. She claims not to be concerned about the vote. But in the second part of the quote she alludes to the fact that voting for her would be a scumtell. Doesn't really sound like she's not concerned about Ogre's vote.

Actually I meant just what I said, I'm not concerned about a vote against me early in day one when most everyone at that point had very little to go on and until the craziness of the past 8 hours or so there hadn't been a whole long for anyone to judge off of. However, if he stays on me for the reason he first gave I do think that would be a scumtell as I'm guessing you would of anyone that admitted their vote was random and didn't consider anything that has been said since then.

Here's Ogre's now-famous quote...
Here Cory Lover pounces on Ogre's confession...
Here Grins climbs on-board....but not too far on.
Beth says Hmmm, but Ogre probably wouldn't slip like that...
Here Grins wonders aloud if Ogre may be telegraphing that he's scum...but she's not committing too much. Mentions that she's just putting it out there in case anyone else wants to take the ball and run with it. Kind of floating out there in hopes that it gets some legs.


Now going after somebody who apparently doesn't find Ogre's statement worthy of questioning...
lol, are you now defending JM's posts about Ogre as reasonable or even sensical?

Now Ogre is looking more suspicious to Grins, all because Judge is questioning the relevance of the statement...

Here again asking for input on Ogre to see if anyone else wants to take Ogre's statement and run with it..

Now Grins again is not convinced that it's a slip up, but worthy of discussion..

Here again worthy of a red flag..

Now, it's always a possibility that Ogre is scum, but he's not a dope. For him to have been scum and actually meant what was being twisted into his words, he would have to be...wouldn't he?

I don't think he is a dope, in fact I've said twice now that he reminds me of your style and that is of someone that has proven they can hide well as mafia. However I have only played with him once and KotD said he played with him in the past and does believe it could be a tell.

I understood Ogre's original statement....others understood Ogre's original statement...Grins admits to understanding Ogre's original statement. I think that Grins is too good of a player to even find Ogre's statement remotely 'interesting'. Then to spend so much effort discussing it.

Keep in mind that at the time this all started, lots of folks were watching Grins and saying that something didn't seem right. Surely a lot of unwanted attention if you're mafia.... this whole 'worthy of discussion' episode looks to me like it could have been an attempt to deflect unwanted attention.

If I wanted to deflect unwanted attention I'd probably keep my mouth shut and fingers away from the keyboard far more. :lipssealedsmilie:

It really seems like a whole lot of something about nothing.

Mad, my replies are in your post in pink but again I certainly do find it worth noting that in the episode of posts you have quoted JM was acting like a madwoman (pun not intended at first but I'll let it stand). For you to chose my posts and not JM's during that time is certainly not going unoticed.

I retract my vote on JM and vote to lynch Mal.

Better watch it, Mal's next theory is that Rb will off you because he will think this is your revenge for suggesting we all switch votes alot when you were mod in the last game.

If I am remembering correctly she went through the Grinch game with no one really suspecting her to be the mafia overlord.

Yep, and feel free to ask those that were in that game on my team and in this game Ice, Blue, JM (although psst good luck understanding her in this round) how I might have done that? I asked a few newbie type questions when I did post and tried to lay low the rest of the time.

Don't mean to disturb, but I'm doing what I can while dealing with some serious RL stuff. I won't quit, but I probably won't be as active as usual although I can use the stress relief of the game and will do my best.

/game off/ hope things are dealt with soon for you /game on/

lmao, ..you guys crack me up! First of all, if any of you believe that i am trying to protect anyone, ..your crazy! , And, do you know how mad I would be, .if i was on a team with mal, or myself, and we acted this way?..And seriously, are you guys still not getting, that I questioned the people questioning the post, not the post itself?..And, i can assure you, my only allegiance at this point, is with the town! But just for clown: I AM INNOCENT! roflmfao!

Frankly I'd be mad at you right now whether I was on your team or not..lol. Poor Ogre if innocent doesn't even feel he can vote for you after what you managed to blindside him with.
 
OMFG!!!! Talk about a big circle of craziness...and you all say I'm nuts?? Crap, I my head is completely spinning here after reading all that!! I started out with muti-quotes but then so many things to quote I'd have a 3 page post!!

First Mal...wth??? You have got to be the single most confusing player (writer) I have ever seen...no wonder you usually post low.

You said that RB has it in for Jmax because of a AD post from last game he modded, well show me a game where there where no AD posts...please. So we are suppose to believe that RB is holding this grudge from what 3 games ago, for something most everyone has done and still does??? Also, how exactly is he suppose to be getting her killed off??? Did he make up posts by her and add them for us to think she sound mafia, I mean he has know idea what she is going to type?? Oh, I know she probably isn't even playing is she and RB is making up all the post that are suppose to be from her, so we will think she sounds mafia and kill her off night one...is that it???

Jmax...well, I really don't know what to make of you this game, you are right up there with her. You ongoing talk about one post someone made...really there is so much I just don't know.

Grins...OMG talk about huge post, it is almost torture to make it through those with all the "you said that HERE", and THIS, and THERE...heck by the time I get done clicking on all your here's there's and this and that's I have lost track of what the **** you are even talking about. Sorry, but to me you seem to be causing more confusions with your posts then help...but trying to look like you are trying to help a little to much, IMO. Then there is the accusation by Blue that you edited your post...which really I can't see her saying if she didn't see it. I could be wrong maybe she did make it up, but I don't think so. If you did, I don't see why you deny it so.

Lchap...well really what more can I say, if you are innocent this "new" style is doing very little for you...btw, do you plan to really keep your vote on yourself???

I am having a hard time deciding which to place my vote on atm, but I'm sure it will land on one of these four.
 
I am going to bed now, I will be back sometime tomorrow to post more, but right now I am very tired and my head hurts from all that reading. Wow I think this may be the craziest day one EVER!
 
I am going to bed now, I will be back sometime tomorrow to post more, but right now I am very tired and my head hurts from all that reading. Wow I think this may be the craziest day one EVER!

think so? LOL..it'll probably be even crazier today..
 
thru #677....

to lynch...

lchap (2) by lchp 4 grns 309

hook (2) by jdge 7 ilb 123

judge (2) by hk 27 cory 486

ilb (1) by bkw 433

grins (2) by ogre 107 clwn 450

clown (1) by cool 114

malbri (2) by ice 632 kotd 638

kotd (1) by mal 498

13 of 21 have voted....

no votes from: Emo, DD, Jo, Beth, Blueiz, Mad, Lady, Zsand


Nightfall @ 8 PM EST tonight, Tuesday, 01/08
 
hey guys... sorry... but im caught up..

I'm just gonna post once before i hit bed for the night. Got another long day tomorrow.

My opinion at this point is that i could vote either mal or lchp. I can see the case for mal, but it still doesn't carry more than a suspicion for me really....

lchp doesnt seem to be doing much of anything but voting for himself. Voting for yourself so early in the game? Why? Theres no need... who are you coler? Even if he's not mafia (i think he may be, but theres a good chance night 1 that im wrong too) I don't think his play style is very helpful to the town.

My theory (others may disagree) is that it makes more sense to lynch a person who may/may not be mafia but has a non helpful play style on night one rather then take a chance at hitting the nail on the head and lynching a more experienced player who could be a big help to us as innocent.

This being said however, i do not believe mal (in my honest opinion from previous games) really falls into that 2nd category quite yet (closer then chap however).

So my vote right now is up in the air.... i'll have to sleep on it.

And to all those concerned about my sense of humor... its still very much here, i just wanted to get everyone somewhat focused =).

I wouldn't say that Jo. This might only be LCs 3rd game but the guy has caught on how to play really well.well it showed in game 1 not so much game 2 or this game so far. But I think if LC is innocent and actually plays the way he could then he far and away benefits us over Mal.
 
I guess... im not familiar with his first game. I read a tiny bit of the 2nd game.. but not enough to get a real beat. I guess that wasnt really fair for me to say..but just by his play style so far this game i assumed mal might be a tad bit more helpful if innocent in the end.... but i don't find mal very helpful much either (in this game or most previous).

So who knows... right now i would probably vote mal. I'd like to see more out of LG though, she usually posts higher than this. I doubt shes trying to stay away, because she knows better than that, maybe she just had a really busy day. I know i did. But hopefully more out of her soon...
 
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