Need help picking new tanks

your "bat fish" is a Chinese Hi fin shark, you will need 4-9 3-400G tanks

Mgamer20o0 said:

can i get pop corn also.....

well i say your doing the first best thing. coming here and learning and wanting to change.

20g
2 Tiger Oscars - 4" ea.
1 Snowflake Eel - 18"
1 Green Spotted Puffer - 3"

i think snowflake eel is a salt water eel. that needs to be sent back right away.

1 oscar need 75 gal tank min you need to find someone to house them or get your self a 150 tank or so.

green spotted puffer is a brackish water and needs to be sent back right away

40g
2 Blood Parrots - 3" ea.
2 Gourami - 3" ea.
2 Diskus - 3" ea.
2 Bat fish - 4" ea.
2 Angel Fish - 3" ea.
2 Black Ghost - 3" ea.
2 Pleco - 4" and 8"
1 Tire Track Eel - 8"

common plecos get 26 in long and need to be in a pond more then a tank.

Tire Track Eel get to be 30 inch long i think

black ghost knifes get to be 26 inch long need 200 gal for one. (want one my self but dont have the room to keep it)

discus are better kept in groups. they need 15-20 gal per fish.

Bat fish are salt water i think and need to be taken back right away.

angels should not be kept with Gourami

2 Blood Parrots should be kept in a 55 gal or so

i dont know how to got all these fish in there but you need to do something about it right away before they all die of. if the tanks are new you need to read on cycling. http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84598

if you let us know how many and how big of tanks you will get we can help you with what you should keep.

20 gal
2 Gourami

40g
2 angelfish

get a 55 gal and you can keep the 2 Blood Parrots. the rest take back.

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hit the nail on the head

man i shouldve skipped my ice cream! i couldve gotten this one LOL

if that bat fish is a high fin chinese loach that lfs is an a punk because they grow to 38 inches long and i imagine the high fin would be about the same hight
i think i saw some in rocky poibnt long island NY store
really stupid what things people will buy and then sell

Are you sure the snowflake eel isn't really a Freshwater Moray Eel
(Echidna rhodochilus) or is it the same thing?? Sorry....no experience on these guys but thought I would throw it out there. If it is a freshwater moray, they require brackish and minium 55 gal or bigger from what I read ON THIS SITE under species profiles. Don't know if the puffer and eel would be okay together just because they are both brackish.

And as for the Black Ghost Knife....from what I read on THIS SITE under the species profile...max size is 20 inches not 26" (big difference). Also they are solitary creatures...so having 2 of them in same tank would be out.
http://www.aquariacentral.com/species/db.cgi?db=fresh&uid=default&ID=0390&view_records=1

chaibill said:

if that bat fish is a high fin chinese loach that lfs is an a punk because they grow to 38 inches long and i imagine the high fin would be about the same hight
i think i saw some in rocky poibnt long island NY store
really stupid what things people will buy and then sell

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And as for the chinese hi fin shark....many common names for these guys...I know them as banded hi fin sharks and have heard of batfish/chinese hi fins along with Zebra hi fins etc... These are a great community fish. I have them with my discus and angels in my 280gal and they do a great job of clean up. They are only about 6 inches right now (had these guys for over 5 yrs now) and I will accomadate them as they grow bigger.

Also they do NOT get to 38"....in the wild they can get UP TO 3 feet (36") but as we all know they never reach full potential in fish tanks (doesn't mean it won't happen though). Also these guys are very slow growing. Because of their slow growth people can buy them young and keep them in smaller tanks and accomadate them with bigger tanks through the years. A tall tank is definitely appreciated by these guys.I've had mine for over 5 years now and it will be another 5-10 yrs before they reach their limit. That is a long time to plan ahead for bigger and better tanks.

So, it's not "stupid" for people to buy them or sell them and *I* am not "stupid" for owning some. It's like saying it's "stupid" to buy or sell oscars just because they get big.....these guys are no different then Oscars or any other fish you would buy at a LFS....you provide the proper care then there is no problem. Isn't that the very core of this "hobby"?

IMO the only fish that are "stupid" for people to buy or sell are endangered species or illegal ones.

moonDreamer, with you will Argue, you say they wont reach 26" then tell that to 142, he is a 7 year old ghost knife of mine. very interesting to watch. I gave the ghost information to the persons whom posted it. please do not spread disinformation about them, and they do require more then 200G minimum despote What MOST sites say.

My apologies.

Ghost_knife said:

moonDreamer, with you will Argue, you say they wont reach 26" then tell that to 142, he is a 7 year old ghost knife of mine. very interesting to watch. I gave the ghost information to the persons whom posted it. please do not spread disinformation about them, and they do require more then 200G minimum despote What MOST sites say.

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LOL I think you misinterpet what I was saying. I was merely posting that THIS SITE posted max size as 20" AND min 90gals!..*I* was not saying it, this site was. I cannot really argue to much about it cause my black ghost knife is just a baby right now and my first knife ever in over 15 yrs in this hobby! I would love to see pictures of yours! Must be a BEAUTY!

I use the species profiles on this site alot for references such as I did here to find out the size of the knife cause as much as I know about alot of fish from the top of my head there is alot I don't know or need to reference somewhere for a reminder or to jog my memory (my apologies to you, I'm big enough to admit I am wrong )...It's ashame that it is NOT updated or kept up with.

It's funny because....I orginally used this site to research about black knives before I went out bought one and thought I would be able to house one properly and now I am learning different? I know there are other sites (most are junk imo that I have come across), but I assumed a forum dedicated to fish would have the most accurate and updated info about the species they love so much......well...lesson learned. I don't think any less of this site for it but a little disappointed.