female black molly harrassing the male?

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I have just set up my 37 gal aquarium and I regretably bought 2 black lyretail sailfin mollies from pet-co. Day 1 I bought the female, she seemed healthy but day 2 I started seeing some inactivity and sickness. Day 3 I bought a male and I started noticing some white stuff on the female and she doesn't seem to use her right fin as much, I'm assuming it's Ick. I used Ick treatment today and I've fed them 3 times today with a small ammount of food. The female with ick seems more healthy than the male and at feeding time attacks the male if he tries to eat, hogging all the food. now the sick female is "festively plump" and the male is normal size. Now the female is constantly harrassing the male. I'm beggining to the think that it's not Ick but a wierd strain of the RAGE virus and that I have a zombie fish.
 

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Ich should look like grains of salt. Do you have pictures of your fish? Please do not treat your fish unless you are sure of what is affecting your fish. Using meds improperly is very dangerous. I'd suggest getting the pictures right away and use carbon to remove the med. Viral diseases are not easy to treat but your case appears to be bacterial or rather columnaris disease to be specific. Livebearers are very prone to it.

Post your water parameters and other fish (if any).
 

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I don't have pics but it appears to be a relatively large white spot above the right fin along with some very small whiteness on that fin and the dorsal fin. I recently raised the alkalinity from 7.0 to 8.6 in preparation for the African cichlids and she seems to act completely normal now. She is moving her right fin as normal, but the white spot is still visable; however She's extremely active, more than she's ever been, vigorous at feeding, and is bullying the smaller healthy male around. Is this a sign of recovery? keep in mind this fish has been through a lot of stress in the past 3 days since I decided to change it from a 20 gallon long to a 37 and then decided to remove the UGF while changing around landscapes and other equipment. The male is new. The tank hasn't begun cycling yet (0 nits and ammonia) and I've added the ick medication. should I still remove the medication with carbon, because that would be great so I can add my bio-spira and get my cycling back in order.
 

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P.S. It doesn't really look like grains of salt. But even with the spot, these mollies are extremely active now, I've never seen mollies act like this. It's like they're on speed. Do black mollies thrive in extremely high alkalinity?
 

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I just remembered your other thread. Now I feel confused. I need the pictures because I am torn with what exactly is happening in your situation. Filter out the ich med with carbon. If this is not ich, then you are probably using the wrong med and that is very dangerous. Mollies can actually thrive in water with high alkalinity and high pH.
 

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ok I'm adding the filters back in. I'm also using the bio-spira tonight and tommorow I'm going to get 3 small african cichlids along with 2 new carbon filters for my penguin 350 to remove the traces of ick medication. I don't think it's ick, they seem too healthy. It's most likely the bacterial infection you were telling me about. The infection seems to be deminishing. 1 final question, is this livebearer bacterial infection contageous to cichlids? I also added 2 teaspoons of table salt in the 37 gallons just for good measure.
 

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You're adding black mollys with cichlids? If the cichlids don't catch the infection from the mollys by sharing the tank they surely will catch it when they eat the mollys. You can't mix cichlids with mollys and expect mollys to survive. If that is your whole plan, then the mollys would be best off either given away or euthanized before the cichlids go into the tank... but beware, bacterial and fungal infections are contageous via the water and other stuff in the tank, including filter media. This is a really bad time to get more fish, and in the future, if you think a fish is sick, please don't add any others until the sick fish is either removed or treated and well again.
 

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Do you want the mollies? I said in my other post that as soon as the cichlids start harrassing the mollies I am going to donate them back to the dreaded pet-co where I got them from, The worst 4$ I ever spent contaminating my brand new tank. I'm sure they'll have a better time in the disease-pit I got them from /sarcasm. although I am getting attached to the little fellows, they've been too much of a hassle and there aren't many other high-alkaline fish I can group them with unless I go full saltwater.
 

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I'd take them if I was close enough. They'd do great with my breeding mollys (after they were well, of course). I have a 90 gallon breeding tank full of black and gold dust mollys right now, and numerous fry tanks... (among many others, lol)
I would rather hear that they went back to the store than to be torn up by cichlids. That's a pretty cruel way to die...
 

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ditto, no mollies with cics, and no new fish with a possible germ in the tank. remeber their invisible.
 
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