just got back from my lfs and there was this oranda there absolutly covered with ich i asked about it they said somebody brought in the oranda and several platys in all 10 that were housed in a 5 gallon tank so sad when people buy tanks and fish without doing homework first all platys died with in couple of hours and from what i saw oranda doesnt have long what can we do to educate the ignorant and iresponsable fish newbies so this doesnt happen in the future