What is on this goldfish?

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So this gold fish is the only one in the tank that has this. N e one know what it is?

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Localized infection from an abrasion, maybe? Goldfish also frequently get cysts, but that looks more like an abrasion that has become irritated. Any chance this fish bumped its eye on a decoration or something?
 

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yeah its a good chance it scraped or bumped something. i thought it looked like an infection.
 

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It looks kind of like the equivalent of a fishy black eye! How long has the fish been like this? If it's just in the last day or so, I would guess that we are on target with the abrasion theory. Maybe Lupin will check in on this thread and offer his 2 cents. It has "goldfish" in it, so chances are good.
 

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Ouch! That must be hurting the poor baby.:(

It looks like bacterial infection to me. I had one oranda suffering a mild one like that but not as bad as the one your lionchu currently has. All it needed was an iodine solution to correct the issue. Could you try applying iodine solution or hydrogen peroxide on it with a Q-tip? Be careful not to leak it to the eyes, mouth and gills.

In the meantime, perform a large water change assuming your goldfish are already used to frequent water changes and add salt to keep the infection at bay. If you never treated everyone with praziquantel before, now is the right time to do it.

For salt, I recommend elevating it to 0.3% which is equivalent to 3 teaspoons per gallon but there is a gradual step by step process to do it to avoid further issues particularly osmotic shock. Remember to dissolve salt thoroughly first and do a large water change.

1. Add a teaspoon per gallon (0.1%).
2. If after 12 hours your fish tolerates salt just fine, repeat step 1.
3. Repeat step 1 after another 12 hours.

For praziquantel, you can buy it either as Prazipro in online stores or petstores, or as Droncit in veterinary clinics. They do not come cheap however they are effective against flukes and a small range of intestinal worms, both common ailments among goldfish. As this is a mild treatment, it's difficult to resist overdosing especially as it will not usually hurt the fish nor the biological filtration.

Here's a good schedule for prazi dosing.

  • Remove carbon.
  • Add 2.5 milligrams per liter of water.
  • If you are using the powdered version, it is difficult to dissolve. Predissolve in tank water by shaking it up in a small container.
  • Dosing
    Day 1 -- remove carbon, perform water change with vacuuming, and add Prazi to tank
    Day 2 -- add Prazi
    Day 3 -- do nothing
    Day 4 -- do nothing
    Day 5 -- do nothing
    Day 6 -- add Prazi
    Day 7 -- add Prazi
    Day 8 -- normal partial water change with vacuuming
    Day 14 - normal partial water change, then add prazi
    Day 21 - normal partial water change, then add prazi
    Day 28 - normal partial water change, then add prazi
    Day 35 - normal partial water change, add carbon, treatment is complete
We'll need more info. Could you answer these questions please?
1. What is the size of your tank?

2. What are your water parameters? State the brand of test kit used.

3. Is your aquarium set up freshwater or brackish water?

4. How long the aquarium has been set up?

5. What fish do you have? How many are in your tank? How big are they? How long have you had them?

6. Were the fish placed under quarantine period (minus the first batch from the point wherein the tank is ready to accommodate the inhabitants)?

7. What temperature is the tank water currently?

8. Are there live plants in the aquarium?

9. What filter are you using? State brand, maintenance routine and power capacity.

10. Any other equipment used (aside from heater and filter which are two very important components of the tank)?

11. Does your aquarium receive natural sunlight at any given part of the day? What is your lighting schedule (assuming you do not rely on sunlight for our viewing pleasure)?

12. When did you perform your last water change and how much water was changed? How often do you change your water? Do you vacuum the substrate?

13. What foods do you provide your fish? What is the feeding schedule?

14. What unusual signs have you observed in your fish?

15. Have you treated your fish ahead of diagnosis? If so, what treatments did you use? State your reasons for planning ahead of proper diagnosis.
 

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I knew Lupin couldn't resist! Great advice from a great Goldfish master! :)
 

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1.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]What is the size of your tank? 50 Gal.
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2. What are your water parameters? State the brand of test kit used.Testing.

3. Is your aquarium set up freshwater or brackish water? Fresh

4. How long the aquarium has been set up? 8 months cycled

5. What fish do you have? How many are in your tank? How big are they? How long have you had them? All gold fish, 4 total, from 2-3inches, Had all fish for at least 5 months.

6. Were the fish placed under quarantine period (minus the first batch from the point wherein the tank is ready to accommodate the inhabitants)? No

7. What temperature is the tank water currently? 73F

8. Are there live plants in the aquarium? no

9. What filter are you using? State brand, maintenance routine and power capacity. Whisper ex70, clean every month and switch carbon.

10. Any other equipment used (aside from heater and filter which are two very important components of the tank)? Yes, whisper air pump for air stones

11. Does your aquarium receive natural sunlight at any given part of the day? What is your lighting schedule (assuming you do not rely on sunlight for our viewing pleasure)? Yes, partial sunlight between dawn to 1pm, lights on from 7pm-1am

12. When did you perform your last water change and how much water was changed? How often do you change your water? Do you vacuum the substrate? Change water every week, approx. 40percent. Last water change today, 50percent, added salt again.

13. What foods do you provide your fish? What is the feeding schedule? Gold fish flakes from Aqueon and occasional bloodworms or brine shrimp.

14. What unusual signs have you observed in your fish? None, acts like nothing is wrong, eats normal amounts, swims and breaths fine.

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15. Have you treated your fish ahead of diagnosis? If so, what treatments did you use? State your reasons for planning ahead of proper diagnosis. No I have not. Began treatment after your last post. Started with 1 teaspoon per 10 gal. because water was very foggy, seemed like 1:1 would be too much. Changing between 30-50% every other day. Salt content currently at 3 teaspoons per 10 gallons.

Initial reaction is a highly reduced inflammation. However, a small red area has persisted and although his behavior seems normal, I am concerned about a prolonged infection. Will a higher salt concentration work best for treatment without affecting the tankmates or would you recommend another method?

Updated pictures and parameters to follow.
 

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The teaspoon per gallon dosage is not really too much. A teaspoon per 10g is far too small. If you never treated all your goldfish before with salt and prazi, I'd take advantage of that to keep flukes, ich and other parasites at bay.

If you have a spare tank, put the sick fish there and treat separately with salt. Dab the sore with iodine solution or hydrogen peroxide. Make sure the solution does not touch the eyes, mouth and gills though. After that, wipe the sore dry gently with a soft towel and then dab with neosporin ointment.
 
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