Hey gang. I made a road trip to Uncle Ned's fish factory this past Monday when I saw he had some of these listed for sale. I have been looking for them for a while, so I was pretty happy they were so close by (well, 60 miles each way close !) They were advertised as large, and they were not kidding ! I pictured something a bit bigger than my otto afinis, but these guys/girls are 3 times the size of them! They are bigger than my sids that I have had for almost 2 years. And they are very visible, out and about and all around the tank. Managed to snap a coupla quick pics for ya. Enjoy: