Acclimate softies and kenya and etc

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khmerspec

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Question first, decided my intro being too long :duh:

So now I have a bucket of LR with a bunch of kenya trees, some zoas?, one identifiable( but dying) leather, and a 4head frogspawn?). I've got a koralia pump circulating the and the light on when I can.

Problem is, I only recently just finished filling up sump and just now gotten the main tank in. I am using RODI water from a brand new system, and redsea/redcrystal "reef ready salt".

Do I only need to get the salinity the same? Or are there a few steps I'm missing.

Also if someone could tell me what to do to help revive whats still alive. I'll try to take pictures so I can know what I have, but I don't have a decent camera.

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So a buddy of mine who has been babysitting my snowflake eel for the past year suddenly decided he's officially quitting reef, or anything at all to do with salt.

I believe it was due in part to losing close to $1k in corals and fish, but he won't say.

Anyways, I was asked to pick up the snowflake and anything I wanted, which ended up being everything but his tanks. All I had available was $200 so that was all I could give him. He didn't want to accept at first, but I wasn't gonna leach off him that badly.
 

redfishblewfish

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You’ve got a problem. You have a tank that needs to go through a cycle….about a month….. and livestock that immediately need a tank.

I’m not a big proponent of this stuff, but in this case I would suggest you buy Bio-Spira today and use that to instant-cycle your tank. Then throw in the corals and start to pray.


Read directions on Bio-Spira, dial in salinity and temperature (ca 78F) and get these corals into the tank (with the powerheads going).
 

khmerspec

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I've bought about 50lbs of live sand and have gotten about 30-40 gallons of his original tank water.

As of right now, the sump has been running for 3 days with 20lbs of live sand and live rock from his tank filled up as high as it can go in the refug area.
Great news is the snowflake eel is doing great. He looked like he was going to kick the bucket two days ago, but he's eaten and is checking out his new home.

I have all of the stuff growing in a 37gallon tote in the garage. I've gotten light over it and a pump. How long can I keep these in here without much harm? I just checked, and lots of things are open (kenya trees and frogspawns). There's also a royal gramma that's refusing to die reguardless of the abuse the poor things been through.

I was thinking once I have the main tank filled about 20gallons, I'd pump the 40ish gallons from the old tank in and drop the live stuff in.

Or should I wait to fill it completely and get the sump return going through the maintank?

going out to get the bio-spira now
 

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Live sand doesn't help.. neither does "original tank water". While the live sand won't really harm anything (other than your wallet), it won't help much either. Original tank water.. that could harm things depending on how bad it is (how much nitrates/phosphates/etc are in the water)

Do you have a heater in the tote?
 

redfishblewfish

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I truly wish you the best of luck.

That tank will cycle and ammonia and nitrite are not very well tolerated by living organisms, other than the bacteria that metabolize them. The live rock will help and hopefully keep the spikes to a level the eel can tolerate.
 

khmerspec

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Thanks RED. Just got back with the bio spira. Looks like ill have to fill the tank up more before I can use it. Not always home, and I only have the small 18gal tote, so I can't take full advantage of my 100gpd rodi system.

Here's some pictures I took earlier. If I can get identifications ^^

All of these I got yesterday.

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khmerspec

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Live sand doesn't help.. neither does "original tank water". While the live sand won't really harm anything (other than your wallet), it won't help much either. Original tank water.. that could harm things depending on how bad it is (how much nitrates/phosphates/etc are in the water)

Do you have a heater in the tote?

No I don't, forgot about it, will get to it now. I'll go do tests on the sump and tote now.
 

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I've bought about 50lbs of live sand and have gotten about 30-40 gallons of his original tank water.

As of right now, the sump has been running for 3 days with 20lbs of live sand and live rock from his tank filled up as high as it can go in the refug area.
Great news is the snowflake eel is doing great. He looked like he was going to kick the bucket two days ago, but he's eaten and is checking out his new home.

I have all of the stuff growing in a 37gallon tote in the garage. I've gotten light over it and a pump. How long can I keep these in here without much harm? I just checked, and lots of things are open (kenya trees and frogspawns). There's also a royal gramma that's refusing to die reguardless of the abuse the poor things been through.

I was thinking once I have the main tank filled about 20gallons, I'd pump the 40ish gallons from the old tank in and drop the live stuff in.

Or should I wait to fill it completely and get the sump return going through the maintank?

going out to get the bio-spira now
If you are using LR/LS and good amount of water from prev tank, I would not worry about cycling as it will take place in no time. Of course no fish/feeding. No catalyst such as Bio-Spira needed in your case! It may do more harm than good!
I never encountered problems with corals when NH3 increased due to heavy addtion of Live corals/water/other critters. And virtually Nitrite is intoxic in salt water.

I have posted on other thread but will attach 3 weeks old 10g tank with many inhabitants which were added on the same day as I set up the tank but used all 10g and LR/LS from well matured system. No water changes yet and controlled feeding. & No losses other than baby grouper dinning on live shrimps, similar to black shrimp in the pic but smaller.

Hope all goes well

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Live sand in the bag can work as long as it has not passed the shelf life. I've used it before.

Live sand from another tank is more trustworthy, IMO, though.

Most of the corals you've received aren't super delicate. The frogspawn being moreso, but I've seen them survive some pretty rough conditions. Even if you do have a small cycle it does not mean they'll die.
With the fish you'll need to make sure to watch your parameters and do water changes if necessary.

As far as ID in your pics, I'm seeing frogspawn (the one in top pic with the calcareous base, it's an LPS) and kenyi tree (the pink tree-like ones). Not sure on the third pic though; I can't seem to see them well.
 

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I personally would not buy LS in the bag regardless of expiration date. Rather spend it on LR. Eventually every dead things in the tank will be bio active.

I think you have awesome LR as it is hard to tell from 3rd pic which is coral and which is rock.

FIrst one is definitely Euphyllia but not sure if it is hammer or frogspawn or torch.

What seems like blue disk in 3rd pic maybe either mushroom head or perhaps baby pagoda (Stony). I had few pagodas pop up out of blue from time to time as well as Euphyllia + others in very matured systems (15+ yrs old system). Round ring next to blue disk perhaps is closed Euphyllia???

Probably easier to id once well settled and opened in the tank.

Cant wait for pics of fully opened corals in the tank!
 
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