GSP to full marine
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Depends on tank size and what you plan to do with the setup when it reaches full marine conditions.
If you are just doing a lone GSP and maybe some live rock/sand then a sump/skimmer probably isn't an absolute necessity. If you are going to add corals, inverts (may or may not work with GSP), and other fish (may or may not work with GSP) then the equipment for a full saltwater setup would be more necessary.
If you are just doing a lone GSP and maybe some live rock/sand then a sump/skimmer probably isn't an absolute necessity. If you are going to add corals, inverts (may or may not work with GSP), and other fish (may or may not work with GSP) then the equipment for a full saltwater setup would be more necessary.
i had two GSP a while back now and i went all marine but it was useless, i could put no other fish with them or anything. i would leave them in a 10 gallon brackish by themselves and be done with it. they do need to atleast be in brackish apon maturity or they wont live as long
GSP's need 30g's of space for each individual puffer. Keeping other fish really depends on space and personality. The less territory you give them the more aggressive they are going to be. 10g is about right to cut the puffer's life horribly short and make it aggressive enough to kill everything in sight.
Yes, I agree pretty much with the above. 10G is far too small for two GSPs and really is too small for one beyond the early juvanile stages. Once they get 2.5" or so it's time to move them to something bigger, and they'll likely be really bored long before that even with heavy planting and snails / ghost shrimp to hunt. My lone GSP lives in a 29G with lots of plants to break up line of sight / make things more interesting and she is still only about 2.5" but I have moved her to high brackish. There is a small pleco in there to help with algae and she pretty much ignores it, but it has been in there since she started in the 10G. Never acknowledged it.
I did make the mistake of getting a second GSP when mine initially got bored in the 10 gallon (lots of 'pacing' up and down the glass, didn't change if I moved plants around) but she bit his back fin twice and I returned him to the local fish place the next day to avoid further injury / agitation. The pleco was his replacement, and while I check him for missing fins daily I've never seen any damage. I keep my GSP really well fed, probably over-fed, so that helps -- she feels no need to snack, and he's definitely no threat / challenge to her, so they leave eachother alone. The pleco does get annoyed with her constant 'buzzing' sometimes though, and will lap the tank a few times in frustration.
Also important to note is that GSPs like all puffers are really messy eaters! Filter, filter, filter. I had a Marineland Penguin 350 (rated for 70 gallons) on the 10 gallon and will soon be ordering a canister rated for at least 100 gallons to supplement it on the 30 gallon. I'm probably taking over-filtering to the extreme (no issues with water quality as it stands, have never had any) but you can't do any damage with an over-abundance of filtering and can easily kill a fish as sensitive as a puffer (being scaleless) with bad or even middle-of-the-road water quality.
I did make the mistake of getting a second GSP when mine initially got bored in the 10 gallon (lots of 'pacing' up and down the glass, didn't change if I moved plants around) but she bit his back fin twice and I returned him to the local fish place the next day to avoid further injury / agitation. The pleco was his replacement, and while I check him for missing fins daily I've never seen any damage. I keep my GSP really well fed, probably over-fed, so that helps -- she feels no need to snack, and he's definitely no threat / challenge to her, so they leave eachother alone. The pleco does get annoyed with her constant 'buzzing' sometimes though, and will lap the tank a few times in frustration.
Also important to note is that GSPs like all puffers are really messy eaters! Filter, filter, filter. I had a Marineland Penguin 350 (rated for 70 gallons) on the 10 gallon and will soon be ordering a canister rated for at least 100 gallons to supplement it on the 30 gallon. I'm probably taking over-filtering to the extreme (no issues with water quality as it stands, have never had any) but you can't do any damage with an over-abundance of filtering and can easily kill a fish as sensitive as a puffer (being scaleless) with bad or even middle-of-the-road water quality.
Yeah, I've been getting double posted a lot in this new format. It really isn't fair to be forcing that pleco to live in BW, please move it back to FW.
To the OP, no reason to move a GSP to SW, if you're not going to use SW filtration: sand, LR, powerheads & protein skimmer. You are welcome to leave it in high-end BW but continue doing 50% weekly WC, which can be quite costly. Should take ~10cups of SW/week for a 55g.
To the OP, no reason to move a GSP to SW, if you're not going to use SW filtration: sand, LR, powerheads & protein skimmer. You are welcome to leave it in high-end BW but continue doing 50% weekly WC, which can be quite costly. Should take ~10cups of SW/week for a 55g.
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I moved GSP's to full marine a few yrs ago with a couple canister filters.. Later introduced some tangs.. no worries.
