Somethings Wrong with my Betta

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skewtles

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A week ago I noticed an injury on my betta. I thought it he must have run into the decor or something and that it would heal if I upped my water changes to 3 times a week and kept the water quality better. But he has gotten progressively worse. A large lump the size of a pea developed over his right eye, his left eye has become cloudy and the scales on his body seem to be getting dull and missing. So I would like to treat him but I don't know whats wrong.

He is in a 5 gallon Hex by himself. It is filtered and has a heater set at 78 degrees. Ammonia = 0 Nitrites = 0 Nitrates 5 with liquid API tests. Water changes are once a week with 50% changed.

I have a few photos of him. Excuse me for they are out of focus because the camera kept focusing on the imperfections on the acrylic but I do believe you can see the large mass above his right eye, his cloudy left eye and his damaged scales.




He is not my first betta but I am really attached to him since I've had him for 1.6 years it also worries me because I have four other tanks that have been set up for years and the fish are all healty besides him. So if you could please help I would greatly appreciate it.
 

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I always hate reading the "sick betta" threads because I want to help but am not good at diagnosis. I think it could be bacterial infection or a tumor with secondary infections. You might want to try switching him to medicated food to help fight off any bacterial ailment. As for treating the tank, if he's the only inhabitant, at least you won't have to worry about inverts or other fish but some medications may impact your filter bacteria. If you haven't yet, check out the stickies at the top of the Freshwater Illness and Disease forum ... in particular the Disease Guide and the Treatments info.
 

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It is really hard to tell someone what is wrong with their fish, but it looks like pop-eye or something of that nature. I would go to the LPS and get a broad range bacterial medication. Also remember when you use those medications it causes the tank to recycle so watch for ammonia and nitrite spikes.
 

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I always hate reading the "sick betta" threads because I want to help but am not good at diagnosis. I think it could be bacterial infection or a tumor with secondary infections. You might want to try switching him to medicated food to help fight off any bacterial ailment. As for treating the tank, if he's the only inhabitant, at least you won't have to worry about inverts or other fish but some medications may impact your filter bacteria. If you haven't yet, check out the stickies at the top of the Freshwater Illness and Disease forum ... in particular the Disease Guide and the Treatments info.
Thanks for the help H20gal. I viewed the links you suggested and read about tumors and bacterial infections. The only diagnosis that had all of his symptoms was Fish Tuberculosis with inflammation of the skin, skin discoloration and scale loss but he doesn't have all of the symptoms of accompanied with it so I really hope it's a simple Tumor with a secondary bacterial infection like you suggested for sake of his health (and my own). My lfs didn't have any medicated food but the person who worked there sold me a bottle of Fish Mox. It is Amoxicillin. He doesn't like anything but Hikari Betta Pellets so I really doubt he would go for medicated food anyways. I've been keeping fish seriously for 6 years so I am relatively new but I never had a fish illness before so I'm sorta at a loss. I guess I am lucky to have made it this far.

And to stormywendyann, thank you for your input but I looked at pictures of popeye and symptoms and he doesn't seem to have it. My pictures were blurry but the large lump is on the side of his head way above the eye. I guess I should have been more careful on how I described it.

The suspected Tumor does not seem to be affecting him at all. It is just really big and it worries me. He still eats
, swims and behaves normally but the bacterial infection seems to be the worst of it with the cloudy eye, irritation, dull color and missing scales so would the medication I bought help him at all?
 

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what are the medicinal components of that medication? i've never seen it or heard of it before.
 

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skewtles, do try feeding your fish only medicated food even if he has to go hungry until he'll eat it. The reason being, antibiotics for the tank may help to eliminate external bacteria but may not do anything for an internal infection. (That's what I understand from some previous reading on the subject.)

Also, like Wendy mentioned earlier, take care when treating the tank as some antibiotics can knock out beneficial bacteria. I have not been able to find much online about Fishmox or amocycillan in aquariums so don't know if that will hurt your filter's BB.

If you want to try a tank treatment, you might want to try Seachem's Paraguard instead of Fish Mox. Paraguard is effective against external bacteria, viruses, fungi and parasites — and it won't hurt filter bacteria. Although it is not officially plant- or invert-safe, I've used it with fish, plants, snails and shrimp with no ill effects. I have not used it with a betta — but an LFS near me does Paraguard baths with all of their incoming stock with zero problems. (A bath is a stronger concentration for a short period of time. Remove your betta and some of his tank water to a small container and follow the instructions on the label for dosing and duration. I think it's up to one hour, as long as the fish shows no sign of distress. Then he goes back into the tank, and you dispose of the treated water. Do not pour it into the tank.)

Hope this helps.
 

skewtles

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Hey again, sorry for the lateness of my reply (almost a month whoops) but I have been super busy. My doctor just recently believes I have a tumor so I've been seeing specialists and dealing with insurance and I just spent a long time yesterday getting an MRI of my head so I've had no time to do anything but feed and do water changes on my various tanks.
Since I've upped my water changes on my 5 gallon betta tank to 3 times a week of 75%, his scales and color have come back but the suspected tumor on his head is spreading, its the size of a pea and a half and the cloudiness of his eyes is worsening. He is still acting and swimming normally but he is favoring the side of which his eye isn't as cloudy as the other. This is extremely noticeable when I feed him.
I can't find any medicated food besides ones for gold fish and look too large for him to eat. Do you know where I could find some medicated food online that is reasonably priced?
I know there is nothing I can do about the tumor short of surgery, but if it does begin to get worse, I'd like to make him as comfortable as possible like before any of this started. Thanks.
 

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My first inclination upon reading the beginning of your thread was to tell you to forget the fish and take care of yourself. After reading the rest I'm at a loss for words. I don't know you from Adam but I know a bit about struggling with health issues. I don't know if the advice given to me by a specialist is appropriate but I'm going to give it anyways. He basically told me that the quality of life is more important than quantity and I guess this applies to both you and your fish (not sure how quality applies to a fish) but if this is the beginning of a battle I'm sure you will figure it out. I urge you to stay positive and not take anything for granted. I wish you a speedy recovery and hopefully this is only a stumbling block that you can look back on and know you faced it like a gladiator. Good luck and Godspede you back to health.

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skewtles

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Well well well, I am just horrible at replying but I am still so busy. Ska D I thank you for your concern and I understand where you are coming from but I'm only 25 I'm not giving up yet and my tanks make me feel better. I've considered giving up the hobby for awhile but I enjoy it even though my other tanks are going down hill fast just like my betta tank. I can deal with the headaches and feeling lousy because my tanks keep me occupied and my son, wife and mom are supporting me. The only part I have trouble with are the water changes, my mom is a gardening junkie and even though I have a python, we both carry like 10 buckets sloshing through the house to water the garden and fruit trees. It is totally worth it.
Well back to my betta (sorry for getting sidetracked) he seems to be getting worse. He lost most of the patches of scales that grew back and the growth is steadily growing week by week. He still is acting normal so I am starting to doubt he will ever recover so I am just going to keep doin' what I'm doin' and hope he doesn't suffer. If it gets to that point I guess I know what I have to do but until then I'm not giving up on him. If anyone has any suggestions I will gladly do anything to make it happen. Thanks.
 
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