Can fish food go bad? Specifically medicated food?

  • Get the NEW AquariaCentral iOS app --> http://itunes.apple.com/app/id1227181058 // Android version will be out soon!

rastoma

AC Members
Feb 29, 2012
361
0
0
Jasper, TN
Awhile back I bought some used tanks and with them were a lot of 'supplies'. There was a bottle of Anti-Parasite medicated fish food by Jungle. The copyright date is 2004. I can't find any other numbers or stamps to indicate a 'use by' time.

The only reason I inquiring about it is because I have a couple of female guppies that are flashing. They have been in the same tank for over a month with 2 other female guppies. All 4 have given birth at least twice, maybe more, I've never been able to observe it unfortunately. But every few days I see at least a couple of newborns. There are no external signs on the 2 that are flashing a lot. No inflamed gills, no injuries or 'spots'. They eat vigorously like the others. I noticed them flashing about a week ago.

I have 0 ammonia and 0 nitrite. Nitrate varies between 20-50 at the highest. I've done multiple water changes this week but they still are scratching. I lost one female about a week ago to dropsy. Other than that, the water is clear. Ramshorn and mystery snails are growing amazingly fast. Guppy babies are growing fast. I know it would be hard to tell but I can't find evidence of a single baby dying (other than probably getting ate, but for the most part the 4 females leave the newborns alone).

So as a precaution I was wondering if it would be OK to try some of this medicated food? I know it's cheap enough to buy fresh, but I buy all my supplies online and it will be a week before it could get here.

Thoughts?
 

platytudes

AC Members
Nov 4, 2006
3,450
0
36
Panama City, FL
Real Name
Nicole
It would be ok to try, although that food tastes pretty awful to begin with, so stale is going to be even worse. Antibiotics lose potency over time, so those probably don't work so well any longer. If you're seeing flashing, I'd raise the temps to about 80, then slowly up to 84. Add a bit of salt, maybe 1 teaspoon per gallon dissolved in water first. Feed food laced with garlic. Fresh garlic crushed into a paste works ok, but the easiest I've found is to use garlic oil capsules (sold as health supplements) - just pop one capsule and use the oil on the flake or pellet you are feeding.
 

Jannika

MTS Survivor
Mar 17, 2010
1,498
0
36
N. California
Heh. Mine is stamped 07/12, but I keep it in the fridge. I wouldn't throw it out, it's good for internal parasites (contains metro, prazi and levamisole), but I don't think it will help in this instance anyway. Flashing is usually caused by external skin irritants such as high nitrates, flukes or the Ich protozoa. Agree with Platy on the salt suggestion and getting those nitrates down with water changes.
 

rastoma

AC Members
Feb 29, 2012
361
0
0
Jasper, TN
Ok, I'll toss it. I don't think it really is bad in that it's the equivalent of spoiled or something, but I agree that the actual medication in it is probably no longer active or have any potency. I used to always wonder why prescription pills have an expiration date. I mean it's a dry pill that can't evaporate but doing a basic quick research showed that chemicals used to make them go inert (lose it's power/ability).

I've still been doing water changes. Nitrates are like 10-20 before doing the next change and they are still flashing. And it's just the same two females. The other two females are not flashing at all (that I have seen and I have been spending a lot of time staring at this tank watching all the cute babies :).

And as mentioned, there's no outward appearances of any ich or anything. They look great over all, very healthy, active, eating very well and having babies. I haven't had a male in the tank in almost a month. I'm trying to give the females a break but they're still pushing out babies like there's no tomorrow (I know they store sperm, but when does it run out? LOL)

I'm raising some mystery and ramshorn snails in this one tank too (and they help to clean up all the extra food as I tend to overfeed a little to ensure the tiniest ones are getting enough to eat). Can the snails tolerate any amount of salt? Or will I need to remove them all first?
 
zoomed.com
hikariusa.com
aqaimports.com
Store