Musings of an Old Fish

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diggozo

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After many years without a fresh water aquarium I am just getting a second hand 55 gal one ready. The tanks that I used to set up were back in the days long before "the net" with its forums and instant response from fellow enthusiasts thousands of miles away. Such sites as The Krib and MongaBay offer reams of information available at the twitch of a mouse to an extent that makes my brain whirl.

To set up a tank in the 'good old days' I would first plant as heavily as possible with swords, cabomba, vallis etc., add the water and turn on the filter which was a box hung on the outside of the tank filled with charcoal and wool. After a few days when the water was clear the fish were added. I had no knowledge of cycling, nitrite and nitrate levels etc., but amazingly enough never had any major problems.

For some years I kept a 50 gal home built tank, heavily planted and with masses of petrified peat which housed a shoal of happy Silver Angels who regularly laid eggs on whatever leaf they felt inclined, although none ever hatched. I would feed my Angels on mosquito larvae, daphnia and blood worm that I caught in a local pond and guppy fry that I bred in a couple of small tanks. Basically the only care that I gave that tank was a weekly hoovering and a small water change.

I have been browsing countless web sites and reading all the posts and the heart rending pleas for help including a couple from me . . . . I am not questioning modern fish-keeping . . . hmmmm maybe I am :) . . . but I can't help wondering if perhaps this most gentle of hobbies has not been complicated by hi-tech commercialism and a wee touch of 'Bull**** Baffles Brains'.
 

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Times, they are a changin' :) They always have and they always will. Some of them are good and some are not. Sometimes I wonder how my first little guppies managed to surive, but I'm still happy I don't have to use glass wool anymore!
 

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I recently got back into the fish game after a 30+ year break- first had fish in '64.

Read everything, listen to everyone, but in the end you'll make your own decisions. Some of the newer stuff is excellent (Eheim cannister filters come to mind) but there is no substitue for experience and good observational skills.

LFS (local fish shops) have gone WAY downhill in my opinion- just don't listen too closely to anyone involved in selling whatever they're talking about :D
 

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Originally posted by Cearbhaill
LFS (local fish shops) have gone WAY downhill in my opinion- just don't listen too closely to anyone involved in selling whatever they're talking about :D
I can agree with that! I got my first one in '60 when there were a lot of "Mom & Pop" shops around who knew what they were talking about and had the time to help you out. Some of the stores were crowded and junky looking but they knew their fish!
 
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diggozo

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Know what you mean - my first tank was sometime in the late fifties . . so long ago I can't remember from whom I bought it but I know it was stuffed with Guppies.

Whatever . . . . here we are, old farts still hooked on our fishy friends . . . am sure my dog Susie will be bounding over to greet me up there . . . . but what about Albert the Angel?
 

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You know, they should move this to the GCC area...

Well, Albert's feelings may hinge on the size tank you had him in, how well you took care of him, who you kept with him and did he get a chance to mate! :)

Did you ever think guppies would look like they do now? The tales on some of the males are just about as big as my first ones whole little body!

There are a lot better treatments for disease too. It also seems it is easier to find the "bread & butter" fish but harder to locate some of the rarer ones.
 

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from what I can tell diggozo's description of how he set up his tank way back when is one way of doing things that are still done... we just have the means to check on more things.

the plants effectively sopp up any ammonia befor it can become a large problem for the fish and thus cycleing is basicly bypassed as far as the fish only scenario goes.

it sounds like you were quite successful as far as your enjoyment of the tanks you had. since then aquarium keeping has grown and the range of water values and the steps we take to deal with those have grown imensely.

We have more specific details about what works now but really aren't any closer to a hard and fast rule than the hobby ever has been.
 

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Most of it is over complication to be honest and to make things even worse people who have no clue what they are talking about tend to hand out advice...the WRONG advice and pass it off as fact.

For the most part I am pro-overfiltration and anti-chemical. People have tried to push the saltwater cycle time into fresh water tanks wheh it really isn't necessary. Test the water coming out of the tap, if everything is within reasonable peramiters then fill your tank and let it run through the filters for a few days. The water will dechlorinate itself. Add a few fish and if it goes well add more.

I've been keeping fish for 20-25 years as well as worked in the industry (Wholesale and retail) and I rarely encounter any problems or deaths at all. I have never had a problem with ich in my home aquariums and my fish always live long and happy lives. To each their own, but I say keeping it simple keeps it simple! ;)
 
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