Is it possible to crossbreed 2 different strains of Bristlenose PLecos?

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JamisonBWolsh

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HI!


I have 2 female Albino Bristlenose's and 1 male in a 20 gallon tank. They are breeding nicely and I am raising their fry in a 10 gallon tank.

Question: I also have 1 male star light bristlenose in a 60 gallon. Can I put him and one female albino pleco in the 10 gallon tank and would they breed with each other? If they can...what would the fry look like?


question 2: If i add the 2 bristlenoses into my 10 gallon...would they harm the fry thats in there? Thanks for your help..


Ps. They say its an "albino" bristlenose.. but I bred 2 batches of these guys and they ALL carry the albino strain. so what would a Black pleco with white dots and a orangish-yellow pleco fry look like?
 

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Most likely, they will hybridize with one another. The fry will look like their parents--some features from each.

I have some bristlenose that are called reds--they have an albine parent and a regular parent. They have orange patches, white dots. No clue on gneder--they're both still small.
 

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If I put the 2 togethor in the 10 gallon tank with 1/4 inch and larger fries (about 25) would they kill or eat the babies?
 

JamisonBWolsh

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I did a little research and found out that I have a FEMALE starlight bristlenose. So, I would breed her with the MALE albino bristlenose pleco. Should I EVEN do this? When they get to sellable size..can I sell them to the LFS? Thanks...
 

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Hope someone else will chime in here, but I wouldn't breed them. There's a problem finding pure breed fish in many species, and the hybrids cause a lot of confusion. Think about discus--so many breeds, all hybrids, the wild caught fish cost a premium.
 

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My understandingafter reading several dozen articles on breeding them on the web is that they will not inter-breed between the different species. And so far, my female Starlight Bristlenose and my male 'regular' bristlenose have not paid any attenetion to each other. I'm waiting for several of the LFS stores to get in new stock for the new year (man I hate the holidays... NO fish!) and hope to get some female 'regular' bristlenoses and at least one male Starlight bristlenose.

I've never seen any bristlenose go after any of my fry...albeit I usually wait until the fry are about 2 weeks old before realeasing them into a tank.

Good luck,
Bill C.
 

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I find it hard to believe a 'starlight' bristlenose will breed with a regular, and the fry will be pretty weak I suspect, and probably all die out after a generation or two. I also think the fry are not likely to be worth much. These are separate species, so the malawi mix analogy is pretty apt - weak fish with insipid colours. Discus are not a good analogy - I think they're just colour morphs of a single species, and the differentiation between heckels and other discus is pretty bogus.
I have a batch of 3 1/2 bristlenoses I'm growing out - how long do you think they'll take to get to 1 inch or so - I guess they're 1/2 inch or so at the moment. When do you think it's safe to sell?
 

JamisonBWolsh

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Thanks for the helpfull insights. I dont think I will try then to mingle the starlight and the albino bristlenose togethor. I seen breeders sell the fries of albino plecos at 2" and selling them for $6.00 each. I have a 10 gallon tank of about 20+ plecos fries and the male is guarding more eggs in the 20 gallon tank. Man, these guys breed like CRAZY!
 

Barbie

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Just my $.02 cents worth here. The reason you get all albino fry when you cross two albinos, is because the genetics for albinism is recessive, meaning for it to show up in the fish, they must only have the 2 genes for albino. If they had any "regular" genes, the albino characteristic would be overridden, and not show up. If you don't believe me, cross that extra albino female, with a "standard" bristlenose male (not starlight, the two aren't the same species, where albinos are just a color morph that's usually attributed to the temmincki type bristlenose). You'll find that all of the fry will be brown, but if you crossed those fry, 1/4 of their fry would be albino, 1/2 would carry the recessive albino genetics, and 1/4 would have only genetics for the standard color pattern. Sorry if that's just more confusing for you.

OG's fish would have to actually be developed by some other method, according to genetics, and are probably just an albino form of a pleco with a darker original color than the standard albino bristlenose, although my albino bristlenose also show the patterning seen on standard bristlenose.

I personally find it distasteful that so many people feel they must cross different types of fish to "create" something new. It causes confusing and dilution and weakening of breeding strains in the hobby, and in my opinion, is as irresponsible as not spaying and neutering your pets.

Barbie
 
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