Can ich medication kill bacteria?

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Xielos

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I've been using Ich medication in my 20 gallon tank for the past week, and I just tested the amonia levels, they are at .5-1 ppm. Now the tank has been running for going on 2 months now (after being taken apart for a week), so theres no reason for it to not be cycled, especially with only one fish. I feed flakes twice a day, so I don't think its overfeeding. The only thing I can think of would be the medication, and I don't even think its working. Plus it turned my sealant blue :mad: Could this be causing the amonia spike? I don't have nitrite/trate tests (really need top get those...), and I did 2 water changes today, and its still showing as .5-1 ppm. Help? :huh:
 

Larissa

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My understanding is that yes, some meds can kill your bacteria. I'm not sure which ones do. Have you tested your water straight from the tap for ammonia? Sometimes, your tapwater will have ammonia in it and you have to remove it with Amquel, Prime or another similar product. If that's not the case, then do water changes and try to keep the ammonia at zero. That's all I got so hopefully someone more knowledgable can help you.
 

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you can add amonia chips to the tank. witch will bring it back down. and after it goes for a few months you should be able to take them out after that. some amonia chips you have to charge with salt water
 

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medications containing copper sulfate, potassium permanganate, formalin, or malachite green will kill the beneficial bacteria.
 

Xielos

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Active Ingredients: Formalin, Malachite Green

FREAKIN' A

I threw out an amonia remover chip thing the other day I accidentaly bought too! AAAAARGH!

Thanks for the help everyone >.<
 

Larissa

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Xielos said:
Active Ingredients: Formalin, Malachite Green

FREAKIN' A

I threw out an amonia remover chip thing the other day I accidentaly bought too! AAAAARGH!

Thanks for the help everyone >.<
Ouch! I'm sorry.
 

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I guess its kind of late, but I would try the salt/heat treatment now and in the future :eek: Also, just keep up on the water changes, it will help out that last fish
 

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Well, my angel dosen't actualy have ich, it has something else (Hole in the Head I think), and another website recomended QuICK Cure for it, so I had been using that. Any recomendations now that Quick Cure is out of the question? :help:
 

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A couple of things.
#1. It's rare to hear of malechite and formalin killing off a bio-filter. It can happen, but it isn't common at all. Generally ich meds do not effect the cycle.
Are you sure you didn't overdose, or is something else amiss? are you sure your test kit is accurate with those two agents in the mix? And Most importantly is your angel showing signs of ammonia burn, or nitrite poisoning? it should be at the ammonia level you report.

#2. Please make sure you have an accurate diagnosis before treating with something else. It is very easy to medicate a fish to death, and that sot of defeats the purpose in the most expensive way. HITH (hole in the head) is not highly common in angels. It could be HITH, but I'd make sure before acting.

#3. there is no cure in a box for HITH. Extremely good water quality, exceptional nutrition, and vitamins will help get it under control and keep it under control. Contrary to what you will read on product labes, it is not caused by Hexamita, and connot be cured with parasite meds.
dave
 
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