Plumbing questions for DIY sump and o/f

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damselmaster

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OK, I have been searching the net trying to find the gravitational flow rate of water down a specific diameter of PVC pipe.

The set up will be simple. I will have a box in the corner of the tank with the lip slightly below the water level so the water will overflow and go down the pipe. The return path will come up through another hole in the same box.

I plan on using this design:

http://home.ptd.net/~reef101/diysump.html

I would like the water to drain strait down the pipe and have the water drop into the sump (the pipe will not be sumerged.)

*Since the intake for the sump will be on the right side of the it and the return pump will be on the Left, I will have to use 2 90 degree joints for the return feed to get it back into the tank.

K, I hope you have a good idea of what I am talking about :)

How would I match the intake and outtake GPH? I know that I can have the outake faster than the intake becasue once the water level in the tank falls below the overflow lip no more water will enter the sump..BUT, if the pump is running faster than the overflow drain, then I will have a wet mess.

The tank will be 100 gal. I would like it to cycle 15- 20 times an hour. so I will need piping to accomadate 1500-2000 GPH flow rate. What size piping should I use? and should I use a slighly slower pump?

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Kabong

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Ummm are there holes already drilled in the bottom of your tank?
On a tank that size the bottom glass is almost certainly tempered so drilling whould not be a good option.
 

damselmaster

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Kabong said:
Ummm are there holes already drilled in the bottom of your tank?
On a tank that size the bottom glass is almost certainly tempered so drilling whould not be a good option.
Nope the holes are drilled yet. I will not have them drilled until I know the proper diameter of holes I will need. :) Which of course is my question.
 

Kabong

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damselmaster said:
Nope the holes are drilled yet. I will not have them drilled until I know the proper diameter of holes I will need. :) Which of course is my question.
Ok so your getting it drilled at the manufactuar? Because other wise your gonna end up with a pile of shattered glass.

Anyway's you want to go for the max flow you might use, in your case 2000GPH, for which you will need 2" diameter drain pipe.

Technicaly for the return you can have it the same size as the drain and then just use fittings to change the size if you need to.

OR for the return line you need to figure out exactly how many bends and how may feet of pipe vertical/horazontal. If you can use 45's instead of 90's that whoul be more efficent. Also IMO you should take advantage of your return flow, and use it to help the flow in the tank. Instead of just haveing it pour back into the tank. You could set up a spray arm system or get some loc-line.
Heres my return system.


So once you figure out what all your angles and distances are, then you can carry on to the next step of figureing out what pump you, need.
 
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