Need help picking out a filter for my 55 gallon Goldfish tank

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waterrat

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May 16, 2006
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Here is a hail mary pass....

You guys have so much great advise so now It's my turn to ask a question. What filter or filters do I need for my goldfish (fancy's) tank that is 55 gallons? Please, I would like to hear from canister and HOB people alike. Also, do I need airation stones or is that more cosmetic than helping? Thanks in advance for being great and helping all of us newbies out.
 

Jericho

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Jul 22, 2005
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I have a combination of HOB and cannister filters on mine. There are so many different brands and at a variety of cost. What is your price range or is sky the limit???


As for air stones, they are primarily cosmetic, but they do cause surface disturbance and that exchanges the gases. But if you have a HOB it will do the same.
 

reptileguy2727

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Jan 15, 2006
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goldfish tend to do better with an airstone, and in the end it wont hurt. i dont liek airstones, but when i turned the one on my 55 goldfish tank they got a little lethargic after a coupel weeks. so i do think you should have an nice powerful air pump n a goldfish tank. my 55 has 2 whisper 60s. if i could i would do a fluval 405 and a double biowheel system (has 2 biowheels hooked up to a powerhead, not a penguin or emperor filter, just biowheels). round-bodied (fancy) goldfish can get swim bladder disease if fed floating food. my tank is bare bottom because i only feed sinking food and if the gravel is big enough for them to not swallow, the food will fall into the gravel out of their reach.
 

waterrat

Stress + Goldfish = happiness
May 16, 2006
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Thank you for the replies. I suppose that if I said that the sky is the limit than the replies will always be Eheim canisters. (I realize that they are the best but also the most expensive) So lets say middle of the road. It seems that you fish experts that do not have a lot of money are the most creative ones. What should the total flow rate be? I noticed that one of the recommendations was to have a bare bottom. Does this mean no large rocks and ornaments? Anyways, I really appreciate the feedback and anything that I can get regarding the filters will be taken into consideration before I go out and get one. I'm planning on setting up in about a week or so. How long should I cycle the system before investing in the goldies? Would the cycling time matter depending on whether it was a canister or HOB? Thanks again.
 

reptileguy2727

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Jan 15, 2006
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you can still put decor in the tank with a bare bottom, but obviously you will need stuff that doesnt need to be buried in the gravel or need the gravel as padding (big, heavy, or sharp rocks). dont worry about flow rate. i know a lot of people will give minimums, but it doesnt matter how many times a filter turns over the tank in an hour, its what the filter does with the water while it cleans it. if a filter is just pushing water through you cant get much done to the water, but something like a fluval that has a relatively low gph rating can handle a bigger tank because it is doing more with the water while it has it. my guide is to take whatever a filter claims it can handle and cut that in half, that is about how many gallons of a moderately stocked tank that filter can handle. you also need to rememer that youre not really filtering 55 gallons of water, you will be cleaning up after the fish. so things like bioload and feeding habits are also very important. tank size is just one factor when determining the filtration needed. also remember that no matter how much filtration you have, if you dont do proper water changes, you are still causing low water quality. my goldfish tank gets a 50% water change once a week. they are growing like crazy. nitrates and pheromones limit growth. frequent large water changes keep both at low levels allowing faster growth. biological filtration simply takes ammonia and turns it into nitrites, then into nitrates, it is then up to you to remove the nitrates, which needs to be done with water changes. fluvals are great for mechanical and chemical. in the bottom tray or two of a fluval i cram in as much filter floss as i can, it functions as a great fine mechanical media. biowheels are the best biological filtration out there. with 30,000 times as much oxygen in the air than in water, they are supreme to any submerged biological media, and any submerged bio media can become clogged and then start to actually choke out the good bacteria. the fluvals also allow for a lot of carbon for chemical filtration.
 
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