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    Quote Originally Posted by monkey_toes View Post
    I could be wrong, but I think African arowanas are now legal with no permit requirement as well.

    Which arowanas are legal in cali?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Galliente View Post
    Which arowanas are legal in cali?
    The only arowanas illegal are the Asians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foolishfish View Post
    I used to build houses and had to deal with the local county equivalent of EPA and Dept. of Natural Resources quite frequently. Here in Maryland it is illegal to possess any indigenous wild caught species. Follow the logic now...you can catch a rockfish that is endangered in the Bay and leave it on the dock to die, but if you keep one alive in a tank or pond...you're a criminal. (Not that you'd put a fish that size in a tank, but you get the idea)

    I volunteer with Save Our Streams and Trout Unlimited, and had built a brown trout hatchery that we were using to repopulate old trout streams that had been wiped out by sedimentation, (mainly from people like my kindred home builders).

    Even with our best intentions and a history of decades of good works they didn't want to give us the permits. They were emphatic that absolutely no one was allowed to impound a native game fish species, and since we intended to raise fingerlings to adulthood we were bad people.

    When I paid a visit to their offices one week, during our four month battle to get a permit, I was greeted in their waiting room by a new addition to their decor...a 120 gal. aquarium.

    Imagine my surprise when, upon closer inspection, I could identify Small Mouth Bass, Crappie and Blue Gills all seemingly unaware that the were being held illegally. Turns out the required permit was also not affixed or displayed anywhere to be found.

    Long story longer...after much attention getting discourse (me threatening lives for the B.S. that they'd put us thru) they produced a permit for their tank at the same time ours miraculously appeared.

    I do enough conservation work, and enjoy the out doors enough, that I can appreciate the need for limiting knuckleheads from promulgating potential ecological disaster due to dim witted invasive species introduction to the wild. However...some of the jerks that we've empowered to keep watch are almost as bad as the idiots releasing snakeheads into the Potomac.

    Whatever happened to moderation and common sense?
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    Illegal in Oregon

    I emailed the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife to get a list, and this is what they gave me:

    (B) Order Cypriniformes
    (i) Piranha or Caribe – Characidae subfamily Serrasalminae – All species and hybrids except Serrasalmus, Pygocentrus and Pristobrycon pursuant to ORS 498.242 and OAR 635– 011– 0160(2);
    (ii) Walking catfish (ORS 498.242) – Clariidae – All species and hybrids;
    (iii) Oriental weatherfish – Cobitidae – Misgurnus anguillicaudatus;
    (iv) Ide – Cyprinidae – Leuciscus idus;
    (v) Rudd – Cyprinidae – Scardinius erythropthalmus.
    (C) Order Lepisosteiformes
    Gar – Lepisosteidae – All species and hybrids.
    (D) Order Perciformes
    (i) Snakehead – Channidae – Channa All species and hybrids;
    (ii) Round Goby – Gobiidae – Neogobius melanostomus;
    (iii) Ruffe – Percidae – Gymnocephalus cernuus;
    (iv) Zander or Pike-perch – Percidae – Sander lucioperca.
    (E) Order Salmoniformes
    Pikes, Pickerel – Esocidae – All species and hybrids.

    (g) Prohibited Crustaceans
    Common Name – Family – Genus/species:
    (A) Order Decapoda
    (i) Chinese mitten crab - Grapsidae – Eriocheir
    All species;
    (ii) Blue crab – Portunidae – Callinectes
    sapidus;
    (iii) Crayfish – Cambaridae – All species.
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    i just heard that in Michigan the yo yo loach is illegal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishfiles1 View Post
    i just heard that in Michigan the yo yo loach is illegal
    Where is the source?
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    In 2005, Michigan established several invasive species laws, creating lists of restricted and prohibited species, rules of possession, penalties for intentional introduction and releases, and a permit program. The new laws also established an Invasive Species Advisory Council, including the directors of the Departments of Natural Resources, Environmental Quality and Agriculture. The Council is responsible for reviewing and updating these lists as well as several other duties. The lists and rules of possession are included at the end of this section and can also be found on the Internet at http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...05-PA-0077.pdf. The DNR is responsible for enforcement for plants and animals. The Department of Agriculture is responsible for enforcement related to insects. Michigan’s rules of possession and penalties apply to those who intentionally or knowingly introduce a prohibited or restricted species. To view the description of penalties, visit http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...05-PA-0076.pdf.
    Michigan also has laws and rules pertaining to aquatic plant control. A permit from the Department of Environmental Quality is required for the application of chemicals to any plant that is growing in standing water at the time of the application. Manual removal of Eurasian water milfoil, curly leaf pondweed, purple loosestrife or other invasive aquatic plants does not require a permit. In addition, anyone cutting plants of any species must remove them. A permit is also not required for the use of biological control such as Eurasian water-milfoil weevils.

    Michigan Aquatic Invasive Species Laws

    Michigan Public Acts 70-74 of 2005 define the following as prohibited and restricted aquatic fish and plant species and describe the rules of possession:

    Prohibited and Restricted Species

    "Prohibited fish species" means any of the following or the eggs thereof:
    Bighead carp (Hypophthalmichthys nobilis) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Bitterling (Rhodeus sericeus) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Black carp (Mylopharyngodon piceus) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Grass carp (Ctenopharyngodon idellus) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Ide (Leuciscus idus) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Japanese weatherfish (Misgurnus anguillicaudatus) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Rudd (Scardinius erythrophthalamus) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Silver carp (Hypophthalmichthys molitrix) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    A fish of the snakehead family (family Channidae) or a genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Tench (Tinca tinca) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.

    "Prohibited aquatic plant species" means any of the following or fragments or seeds thereof:
    African oxygen weed (Lagarosiphon major) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Brazilian elodea (Egeria densa) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    European frogbit (Hydrocharis morsus-ranae) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Giant hogweed (Heracleum mantegazzianum) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Giant salvinia (Salvinia molesta, auriculata, biloba, or herzogii) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Hydrilla (Hydrilla verticillata) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Japanese knotweed (Fallopia japonica) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Parrot's feather (Myriophyllum aquaticum) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Water chestnut (Trapa natans) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Yellow flag iris (Iris pseudacorus) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Yellow floating heart (Nymphoides peltata) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.

    "Restricted aquatic plant species" means any of the following or fragments or seeds thereof:
    Curly leaf pondweed (Potamogeton crispus) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Eurasian watermilfoil (Myriophyllum spicatum) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Flowering rush (Butomus umbellatus) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Phragmites or common reed (Phragmites australis) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof.
    Purple loosestrife (Lythrum salicaria) or a hybrid or genetically engineered variant thereof, except for cultivars developed and recognized to be sterile and approved by the director of agriculture under section 16a of the insect pest and plant disease act, 1931 PA 189, MCL 286.216a.

    Rules of Possession

    (1) A person shall not knowingly possess a live organism if the organism is a prohibited species or restricted species, except under 1 or more of the following circumstances:
    (a) The person intends to present a specimen of the prohibited species or restricted species, for identification or similar purposes, to a person who is a certified applicator or registered applicator under part 83, to a public or private institution of higher education, or to the department or any other state, local, or federal agency with responsibility for the environment or natural resources.
    ( B ) The person has been presented with a specimen of a prohibited species or restricted species for identification or similar purposes under subdivision (a).
    Β© The person possesses the prohibited species or restricted species in conjunction with otherwise lawful activity to eradicate or control the prohibited species or restricted species.
    (d) If the prohibited species or restricted species is not an insect species, the possession is pursuant to a permit issued for education or research purposes by the department under section 41306. If the prohibited species or restricted species is an insect species, the possession is pursuant to a permit issued for education or research purposes by the department of agriculture under section 41306 or by the United States department of agriculture.

    (2) A person described in subsection (1)( B ) or Β© shall notify the department (of natural resources), the department of agriculture, or the department of environmental quality if the prohibited species or restricted species was found at a location where it was not previously known to be present.
    There can never be enough bichir creature keepers.

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    pretty good for a dullard huh?lol
    There can never be enough bichir creature keepers.

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    Snakehead Question:

    Is there any state where the sale or possession of a snakehead's is legal?
    Last edited by BoCoMo; 03-06-2009 at 10:42 PM.
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    hey are kuhlii loaches illegal to keep in queensland, Australia?



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