FS Equipments, Plants, and New Moss

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I recently purchased some all glass check valves and bubble counters from GLA, and I might have bought a bit too many .

2x GLASS CHECK VALVE: 6.00 ea
1x GLASS CO2 BUBBLE COUNTER: 10.00

As for plants, I have:

Microsword (1 portion available) - $5.00 (golf ball size)
Dwarf Hairgrass (1 portion) - $8 ( Has been grown immerse so it will stay very low.)
Bali Moss (5 Portions) - $20 ea portion (golf ball size)

Some info on Bali moss:
Bali Moss is a new and exciting moss. It’s quite interesting compared to the more traditional moss that’s currently in the hobby. The color of Bali Moss is a nice forest green coloration, making it darker than most other moss out there. Bali Moss was collected from the wild, in Bali, hence the name it was given. As far as I know, I am the only one with it, besides my friend, who gave it to me. Unfortunately, I don’t know the scientific name of this moss, because it was just a random moss that was collected from the wild. This moss is TRUE aquatic, it is a slow grower, like all moss, but I have been growing it for a while now in my tanks. Fronds are small and more compact with a similar shape as Christmas moss.


Please be aware that I DO NOT have any heat packs. Be mindful of the weather. Plants and equipment will be shipped via USPS Priority mail. Shipping is going to be $6.

Here are some pictures:

Bali moss.JPG IMG_11391.JPG glass-bubble-counter_lg.jpg glass-check-valve_lg.jpg
 
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If you're unable to identify the moss, I wonder how you can claim it's truly aquatic.

How long ago was it randomly collected?
How long have you been growing it underwater?
 
If you're unable to identify the moss, I wonder how you can claim it's truly aquatic.

How long ago was it randomly collected?
How long have you been growing it underwater?

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The image of it underwater isn't good enough?

FYI:

It has been growing for YEARS now but only within the local area. This moss was not highly distributed outside of our club/area. We had a club member come back from Bali with a sample of this. Our club grew it and was able to spread the wealth around. The reason why it took so long for it to spread into the club was because there was not a big portion of the sample to begin with. I was told that the one being distributed in our club started from a single strand of this moss.

The club (SVAS) has had it for a couple years now, but for us, it has been a couple months. All of this has been grown submerged. It was given to us already being grown submersed and we continued to propagate it this way.

I've already compared this moss to all the other mosses that I (and chef) have, which include:
-Xmas
-Peacock
-Spiky
-Flame
-Willow
-Weeping
-Java
-Taiwan
-Singapore
-Mini x-mass moss
-Fissidens (obviously not fissidens)

None of which have matched. The closest resemblance was probably mini-xmas, but even then, it was iffy.
 
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The image of it underwater isn't good enough?

Haha... no. Of course it isn't. Not when someone decides to sell some new/exciting moss for aquatic use to other hobbyists but doesn't even know what it is. If you weren't already familiar with this moss, you'd have the same questions I just asked.

You're familiar enough with aquatic moss and the moss/plant industry in general. You know quite well how often someone scoops up something from a local stream/lake... or a distributor collects terrestial moss from overseas, snaps a few nice looking photos of it underwater, then tries to pass it off as fully aquatic when it isn't. Even a well-intentioned hobbyist can make the mistake of putting terrestial moss in an aquarium, and just assume it must be okay because after 2-3 months it hadn't died yet.

So no, it's not unreasonable for me to ask such questions. And anyone selling unidentified moss to other people at $20 a pop should expect this and happy to answer those questions.
 
Haha... no. Of course it isn't. Not when someone decides to sell some new/exciting moss for aquatic use to other hobbyists but doesn't even know what it is. If you weren't already familiar with this moss, you'd have the same questions I just asked.

You're familiar enough with aquatic moss and the moss/plant industry in general. You know quite well how often someone scoops up something from a local stream/lake... or a distributor collects terrestial moss from overseas, snaps a few nice looking photos of it underwater, then tries to pass it off as fully aquatic when it isn't. Even a well-intentioned hobbyist can make the mistake of putting terrestial moss in an aquarium, and just assume it must be okay because after 2-3 months it hadn't died yet.

So no, it's not unreasonable for me to ask such questions. And anyone selling unidentified moss to other people at $20 a pop should expect this and happy to answer those questions.

Kashta, this moss is fully aquatic. Not only has it survived months underwater, but it has grown very well underwater. I do understand why you are questioning the moss. New, unknown moss, high selling price, heck, I'd question it too. But the fact is, it has grown underwater, not only in my tank, but in all the tanks of SVAS that have had the luck to get their hands on some.

As for your questions:

1. The moss has been collected for about 2 yrs, if not more. I believe my friend, a fellow SVAS, told me his friend collected a very small sample from a trip to Bali and brought it back. It has been grown from a single strand.
2. I would have to say again, 2 yrs or more. This plant has only been attempted to grow underwater.
 
Thanks guys. PM sent.
 
The first pic of Bali moss is not very impressive. Is that how it looks like after the moss grow up?? It is more like a java moss. Does it form to triangle shape under high lights?
 
Sorry i have a crap camera. My bali has been grown in normal to high light. It has remained the same.
 
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