Mafia #14 -- The Play

I would like others opinions on Jensons if you could please. She is one I feel getting a free ride here. Yes, she voted me..that has nothing to do with my feelings, but reading through her post, she really say's alot of nothing and barely posts.
 
I think the only way I would KNOW he was/wasn't the detective would be if I were the Doc, or the detective myself

Or he is on your mafia team. Did you forget that one?
 
After wadding through that horrible mess of stupidity.....


Looking through the posts it looks like HNs list was basically the same as mine

Charlie
DJ
JM
DP

I'd throw in LG.

For some reason and its only feelings at this point from thread reading but Jpap and Sway give me uneasy feelings.







Then we have the thread translators. I have never seen so many explanations and translations for other peoples posts. I agree, I have to chuckle every time I read those, lmao!




I'd like to ask JM something about this post.

Why are Ogre, JL, DP and DD all capital letters but everyone one else is lower case except the G in LG. Is this some kind of hidden message to the other mafia team to not take out these players? I can see JL DD and DP but I don't understand Ogre at all.
simple, I am to lazy to take of the caps, or go back and fix it if it isn't underlined in red. nopthing more.

Wow OK I have finally caught up with todays postings and went over HN posts from yesterday and today.. If he was hit because he was onto something then this is what I saw..

HN(RIP Innocent Townie Friend) really was on Charlie (RIP Innocent Townie Friend) and the Judge.. Those were the two who he really was applying the screw gun to... so to speak. He did question Lady G on her "questionable" postings and had a few exchanges with Blue questioning her on some of her posts. But by and large he concentrated his efforts of the first two people. Today he wasn't real pressing as I feel he was convinced (as we all were) that his vote was in the right place. In fact I think he even stated that once or twice.um...HN wasn't gunning for me at any point,If HN was coming after me, you would know, he and I have went rounds, many games before.

So if we follow this train of thought that DJMajor was a diversion could it necessarily be assumed that he was a diversion for the Day 1 vote (which we now know had to be false because we lost two townies) but can we theorize that it might be a diversion for the Day 2 vote because he was close?

Some of you have posted that you thought that HN's list consisted of the following and I think I have listed them in the order of his concern. If you really look at his messages and who he was pressing to get their mafia vibe this is it. Or am I completely off base here?

Charlie
JM
DP
DJ

While I have been in two games realistically I only have IRL about 4 days worth of play under my belt so I really am technically a newbie at this myself. With my vote and suspicions cast for Charlie yesterday I am going to take more of a questioning role over the next game day because while I thought I knew how to play I'm starting to feel like a horses rear.
now were claiming "newbie"?

I can agree with that but we now know that this thought was flawed because Charlie wasn't Mafia he was one of us so why would the mafia try to attract attention to one of their own for the sake of a townie..



I am not even concentrating on one of them as I think it was a newbie slip up.. The other one I'm not sure about. He just seems strange all around.



The thing that really gets me about the Judge is that list.. That stupid flipping list. The Judge has supposedly played many games and someone I would not consider a newbie.. I'm still quite new at this and I even know that you don't post a list without some sort of justification. People jumped all over DJMajor today for that very thing but by and large it was let go with the Judge.because If you were actually reading, my list was who I thought RB would choose as mafia, no reasons, just what I thought he would do.



And I have never played with her before but from what I have read before I ever played and what exposure I have had in this game it is supposedly a great mafia tactic. Thats why I'm trying to peal this apart like the layers of an onion.



Very true.. And I can see where his play had a lot to do with it.. But I know I was affected by other peoples input.. HN in large part.. That whole not answering to the ABC post was a good share of that.



I agree with that.. As the behavior was very strange. But like I said right now I don't want to concentrate on what I feel is a diversionary tactic unless I'm completely off base.

You really thought JL was quiet? I was thinking just the opposite. I thought that he was more vocal on Day 1 than he has ever been... not saying that plays to his guilt or innocence, just interesting that you would say he was quiet.
I agree, JL has posted more than what I consider usual for him, but he did so last game as well.

You are obvious to me Lady G.
in no way is this in defense of Lady G but I always feel that way about her.

its the hour...when things change.
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I vote to lynch JudgeMAx
oh, now I see, your being cute, ..get real, ...you give me one good reason?..

I am having innocent fun...I am not scare of getting hung, I would rather be thrown to a pool of sharks if and when you every decide to make a mistake and choose me. You will feel very regretful and remmeber my wishes to be thrown to the sharks.. and just making sure you did yor homework. Trust me or hang me latter on...
you, should maybe do yours.

HUH???yup.

Now I wouldn't be suspicious of anyone that translate this for me. I would actually be appreciative.
again, lmao!

hmmm.....
I agree, very much so.

PLease tell me he's not the detective
I can assure you, he is not.

Obviously the chances that the list is 100% correct are slim. The more posts that come out the easier it will be to whittle off the people who seem innocent and add those I think might be mafia.

I'm in no way saying that everyone not on that list is innocent. Its just the people I suspect as of the moment.

I'd also like to see JM appear. I'd like her to go back and answer posts 653 and 656 for me.
don't know if i grabbed those posts or not, If i have not addressed them, please let me know.

sorry, i can only get on once I get the kids in bed, or they are occupied. both are sick, and my son is not taking it well. I am trying to participate to the best of my abilities, but my sons health has been an up hill battle since he was born, as some of you already know.
 
Ok, so here goes my list.

BLUE: I still feel very strongly that she is mafia, her combativeness, and post style makes me believe so, she is talking very much like an experienced player, yet admits to only reading the last half of last game?.

Lady G : as always she is suspicious to me, I don't know if its just her posting style, but I am also pretty sure she is guilty.


DD: hard for me to read, every time I think she is guilty, its the opposite, and now I am leaning her innocent, so I must be wrong again, and she is mafia. ???????lol, did that make sense?..

ICE: He is actually playing a little differently than usual, Its very subtle, but concerns
me.

DJ: Now he is flat out mafia, I can't help but think so, you won't convince me otherwise, hes acting like a complete idiot, one time he posts like hes got a brain, and the next like he dropped it.which leads me to believe that someone is trying to help him, because its to much of a change from post style to post style.


SWAYE: after having the pleasure of playing with her before, I have to wonder, she doesn't do bad well, and I haven't seen that this game, she seems a little more innocent to me right now.

I know I have missed a few people that i have thoughts about, but I lost track on my thoughts so when they come back to me I will post them again.
 
I would like others opinions on Jensons if you could please. She is one I feel getting a free ride here. Yes, she voted me..that has nothing to do with my feelings, but reading through her post, she really say's alot of nothing and barely posts.

Decided to take a peek and give my thoughts.

I was actually surprised that there are ONLY 2 posts of any merit.




Ok, going out on a limb and going with a gut feeling. I vote to lynch LadyG. G'nite all!


Here she uses a gut feeling. Day 1 I can deal with this, it was still early and she wasn't here for the Charlie fiasco.


My current thoughts, in no particular order:

1. s*%! we lost 2 innocents, and the mafia ratio was pretty high to begin with.

2. How do you prove innocence, without screaming it and being called mafiascum?

3. The current players:

Swayde- makes me nervous. lots of posts, little to judge by

ogre- nothing suspicious yet

Dangerdoll- very conversational and soothing posts, lots of "honeys" and "girls", a ploy to make us comfortable? or just DD enjoying life?

lady g- i still don't like her style or tone- no more evidence than that

jpappy- appears helpful, who knows?

madcrawdad- pushing people for more info, could be baiting

clown lover- no bad vibes yet

cooldude- playing like a noob, suspiciously so, maybe using his stauts as such to play us as per boss' ruling. i don't trust him

johnlarson66- early vote, quiet for a vet. not sure.

jensons- innocent

blueiz- I don't trust her. After LadyG jumped on me, she posted something that seemed to back her up. The vote she then cast for LadyG made me thinkthat it may have been a ruse to keep us off her trail. And, if she is mafia, and suspects that LadyG is on the other team, it would be a good vote.

deputychief- no read

judgemax- leaning innocent

ice- bad vibe, no good reasons

hooked newbie- innocent and gone: no votes placed

dwarf puffers- leaning innocent, but could very well be using past history to play as a sleeper mafia

djmajor- leaning mafia

charlie stubbs- innocent and gone: HN(191) Ogre(382) DP(403) CL(414) DC(417) JPap(462) Ice(464) DD(471) DJ(476)

Notice here that she posts the votes to make sure everyone can see she wasn't on Charlie


4. I know that there's not much to go on here, but this is what I can do before bed. At least it's not about Heroes.

5. My top 3: LadyG, Blueiz, cooldude

G'nite all!

~brandy

I don't agree with the bolded ones and I don't like that she is putting the votes in her post as if to prove she is innocent because she wasn't on Charlie. IMO the ones not on Charlie need to be looked at the hardest. How do you explain not thinking he was mafia with those posts he made?



Jmax,I would be okay with your explanation but

OLD School:
Jensons
OGRE
JL
DP

NEW :
blue
swayde
lady G
and possibly DD

if all the names were capital or lowercase I could buy it but why is Jensons only cap J the others are all cap and then LG is all lowercase but you decided to uppercase just the G? Just seems weird.
 
what? I get online and every one else disappears?...
 
In case anyone hasn't noted who wasn't on Charlie:

JM
JL
LG
Mad
Jensons
Blue
Cooldude

not saying they are all mafia but **** if 5 of them aren't on my list and I could see reasoning for the other 2.
 
Got home from work about an hour and a half ago and have finished supper.. Am going to read through what looks like a productive day in terms of the number of posts.. Will get to my thoughts later..
 
Yeah because thats my MO. I always sit back and let others do all the work. I almost choked on my dinner reading this post. Come on Mad, you can do better then this can't you?
Ice I apologize if I caused you to choke on your chicken...that was not my intent. :)


I find it really interesting that folks mostly not voting for Charlie are now your main suspects....you seemed to have a couple of new trains of thought since yesterday. In the post below from Day 1, you mention that if Chas is lynched and shows mafia, people need to kick down the doors of those not voting for him, as they're his mafia buddies. You then go on to mention that if he shows innocent, the town should look hard at those who started the Chas train, and those who jumped on late. Today you are COMPLETELY opposite. Could it be because you were one of those finishing the Chas train?

Normally they wouldn't and might not be right now but with 2 teams we don't know that Team B isn't on Charlie and Team A is spread out.

Also a chance that they are also afraid to not be on Charlie and write him off as a lost cause.

With 9 people on Charlie I doubt all the mafia players are on him so I'd imagine if he shows mafia that his buddies are the ones spread out onto other players.

If he shows innocent then we have to look at the people that either started the Charlie train or the ones that finished it. Not expecting that we'll have to do this
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My list broken into teams are for no other reason then what I feel are attacks versus distancing.

Team A

JM- Started out defensive and her automatic vote on Blue seemed out of the norm. Even JM isn't usually one to vote a newb the 1st day.

Blue- Her fight with JM and then voting LG is what made me think this was a distancing tactic

Sway- Her vote for DP wasn't much but it stayed there. It was put there to draw DP out. I didn't see anything from DP after that to warrant keeping it there. But the kicker was

Mad- his vote placed on Sway. At a time when it was mostly between Charlie or DJ. If he was worried that Charlie was innocent why not build a case against Sway and get us to switch or why not vote DJ? What a novel approach to the game, Ice... Let's all play follow the leader on Day 1. Mafia, get your votes in early so that the townies can follow....

As far as a case on Swayde, I pulled what there was...you weren't interested then. Apparently you think there's something to it now, though.


Team B

LG- threw suspicion on Charlie, which is finer I thought so also but her statement that it was odd how he was acting but then posting he is acting as usual caught my eye. Its like she wanted us to vote for him but then tried to cover her *** by saying it looked normal. Why then the suspicion?

DC- Felt as though he had to translate LGs post. A few other things have popped out, the posts have been covered. His early vote onto DJ was a big factor, as pointed out he didn't even question it just threw it out.His translation of LGs post, but he doesn't argue it as if he agrees but then he votes Charlie.

Jpap- The posts with JM and JL bother me. If you look at the posts he starts off with I agree but the rest of the post contridicts him agreeing with what he agreed with.

DJ- I think last nights posts speak for themselves.
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