Mafia #29 Biological Badlands #2

i have desided who to vote for you were involved with voting out Judge. you seem to me to be trying to railroad zig. you also seem to have a hit and run style of play that makes me think that your not really trying to digg out the evil. also you have as of late even tried to make me look evil for my opinion on stuff. so that is why even though i doubt it will make much of an impact on the other peoples idea of you i dont care i feel that im right this time

I VOTE TO GENETICALLY TEST HOOKED NEWBIE

catfish69hunter said:

i have desided who to vote for you were involved with voting out Judge. you seem to me to be trying to railroad zig. you also seem to have a hit and run style of play that makes me think that your not really trying to digg out the evil. also you have as of late even tried to make me look evil for my opinion on stuff. so that is why even though i doubt it will make much of an impact on the other peoples idea of you i dont care i feel that im right this time

I VOTE TO GENETICALLY TEST HOOKED NEWBIE

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I believe this vote proves that I'm digging out evil. :silly: Now, let's see if your buddies flock to me.

Yes, I voted for JM. Who truly thought she was innocent? I didn't, I thought she was scummy therefor I voted for her. Hit & run style? :rofl:

Hooked Newbie said:

I believe this vote proves that I'm digging out evil. :silly: Now, let's see if your buddies flock to me.

Yes, I voted for JM. Who truly thought she was innocent? I didn't, I thought she was scummy therefor I voted for her. Hit & run style? :rofl:

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strange it seems to me because you at no point try to defend yourself from what i say. i myself had no opinion of judge either way really but whatever you want to think. we will see how many flock behind me i hope enough to lynch you and prove your evil

catfish69hunter said:

strange it seems to me because you at no point try to defend yourself from what i say. i myself had no opinion of judge either way really but whatever you want to think. we will see how many flock behind me i hope enough to lynch you and prove your evil

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Your point? I don't feel a need to defend myself from what you say. Besides, I can barely decipher it.

Hooked Newbie said:

Your point? I don't feel a need to defend myself from what you say. Besides, I can barely decipher it.

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well just cause you cant understand what im posting makes me wonder you deff not smart enough to lead the evils but smart enough to follow right??

catfish69hunter said:

well just cause you cant understand what im posting makes me wonder you deff not smart enough to lead the evils but smart enough to follow right??

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you deff got read on me. i always follow.

Psst, Jpap....since you convienently forgot that I and others have referenced specifics you've done to look highly suspect I've pulled a few quotes for you. And gee I found some new things too. :silly:

jpappy789 said:

Jmax
Ice
Grins
Zsand
on my short list...

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This is one of the new posts to draw my attention. If you are mafia I'm not surprised you have 3 known innocents to me on your short list. And if you're mafia it makes me feel better about Ice. Oh by the way, in this same post above, you were after ZSand pretty hard. In fact he mentiones it in the following:

ZSandmann said:

pappy, why of all the people with votes was I the one you decided to build a case against? And I have been going at Grins, Cat, and Zig all day so why is Grins on your short list with me. I just find the timing and the direction of that post strange.

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He is right, he was after others. While I don't agree with him that an innocent on day one that it was odd for an innocent to find 2 people going back and forth as both suspect, I do agree with him that you seemed to gloss over who he had been grilling when recapping his actions. Then there was the post that was certainly addressed at the time by myself and others:

jpappy789 said:

I think my thoughts on Zig should be questioned in case he is gone tonight....

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It still shouts guilty to me.

jpappy789 said:

Maybe its just me but the clues at this point seem like a waste of time trying to dechiper.

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You mention later in the thread that I am suspect because I tried to discuss Bob's posts. In reviewing posts you've made, I'd say while I did want to look at his posts you tried to discourage it a few times. Now knowing that you were one of the ones to be mafia in the first Bio game I can see a motive for that.

jpappy789 said:

but you wont see me voting for Hn or making a big fuss over his posts

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That one still causes red flags. It made me wonder if he was your mafia buddy...or your next hit.

And that was just the stuff before I voted for you. Since they I'm feeling uneasy about you

• making it seem as if my vote against you was nothing more than a gut feeling
• joining Ogre's vote against Ice.

A few more comments, the post is already long so might as well keep it one.

catfish69hunter said:

and i believe this quote was posted in the direction of hooked who has a lot of my attention right now with pressing me to no vote and UD seems evil to me??

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Yes your original post was to him but seeing that we're in the same town, you're new, and I was around I chimed in. Hook might be guilty, but I just don't see this particular situation a mafia tell.

plantling said:

Well, if you can't get me tested you could always hit me. :lipssealedsmilie:

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That reminds me, didn't John say he'd hit you if he was mafia? If you are hit and innocent I'm going to be torn between wondering if mafia is using something an innocent said to get rid of you or if John is mafia and playing reverse psych games on us. At this point I'm more prone to believe the former probably.

The Zigman said:

ICE,
You missed this post in your quotefest above, after ZSmann was proven innocent, this is when I rethought my suspects list. I still feel this way, thus my vote for CL.

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Thanks I was in a hurry and trying to make a point. I appreciate you pulling the post I missed. I didn't even think about the day before actually being right after nightfall.

Grins said:

Evil masterminds tend to herd the herd the cattle so to speak..not lead the stampede from the front. At that point JL seemed way to visible by starting the morse and remaining active with it, and leaving himself too open for critique by voting first for JM and staying on her.

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Are you kidding? Have you not learned anything all those times you were evil. Evil do start trains.Especially in the beginning of the game when you can get away with an oops they looked evil.

catfish69hunter said:

wow im at a loss right now. the one person i deff thought was an innocent is leading the list i mean zig you guys think he is evil??? i think hes being railroaded and you guys just arent seeing it. and as for jpap i mean when grins posted for him i really thought he was an innocent (going back to the whole i still dont know about grins yet)but wow the more people just keep jumping on. well i just have no clue now who is innocent and who is evil.

am i able to no vote??? i dont want to be the nail in the coffin so to speak and i just cant deside

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Vote for who you think is evil. Only one that should be afraid of being the nail in the coffin are evils.

jpappy789 said:

Unless I missed it Ice, where have you put out your suspicions of me? Or is this because I am going after you?





I am thinking that cory is also scum. He saw the opportunity to follow Grins with a vote on me which only adds to the following he has been doing. But I doubt my vote will matter and voting with Zig would probably not be the best option as I am not entirely sure about his side and cory would probably twist my vote, claiming we must be on a team.

Ogre is making me nervous so I do not really want to place my vote on Ice even though he is seems like my best suspect at the moment. But it is my best option.

I vote to genetically test Ice

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To funny, I think I'll vote with one of my suspects.

I believe I mentioned you in post 444 post 452 and post 457.

Are you upset that I didn't pull a bunch of your quotes? I could do that if its needed.
Tell you what, if you make it through the night I'll pull quotes, will that make you feel better about why I have you in the suspect list?


I also like your reason for not voting for Zig. I would think the fact that you were trying to save yourself could have been used, but you took the high road instead.


Guess I'll keep my vote where its at. I think either way we have evils with the leading vote getters atm.

Grins said:

I think the "c'mon" needs directed your way my friend. I've been very specific in things that have looked suspect about you from day one. In fact you responded to one of them in this very post I'm quoting from. I can certainly go back and quote all the instances if you'd like. If people are voting for you it is because of what you've done or said.


What are your thoughts on how you looked distancing yourself from Zig just before nightfall last night with your explanation post? The one made when JM had more votes on her but Zig was close? Although I'm concerned about Zig's role you may have noticed my vote isn't on him...its on you.



So what am I to think about you saying Ogre makes you nervous but then you placing your vote with him? Someone I'm thinking is on your team and is the only other vote on Ice? Is it to get John to switch back to Ice?

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I already answered a similar question about Zig, and you were the one who asked it. Post 307. My feeling is that if I were distancing, I would have gone after Zig but still vote Jmax to see if he goes and then point out that I was suspicious of him. Saying he is innocent and then taking the chance of having a teammate (so you say) go wouldnt do me any good.

If I were on a team with Ogre I would not vote with him and leave a trail leading straight back to him. And I am fairly certain that he would not let me do that. He does make me uneasy but is also low enough on my suspect list that I could easily be wrong about him, so I decided to go with my top.

OgreMkV said:

I voted for him first.



Well, if you weren't skimming, you'd know that I had moved you off my evilmost list, until resent posts made me reconsider.



Why does my flip-flopping worry you? I actually haven't changed my vote but one time in the whole game so far. I think Ice does two or three in a day and he's not the only one.

As I said, I'm changing my opinion on players based on new information and only my comments on you come from what someone else has said. That said, I probably won't be voting for you now that Ice has another vote.



They are being silly.

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You have been changing your lists around a lot, maybe it is just me...

Grins said:

I agree it has been a tough game and I'm left thinking we either have a masterful mafia team or an inexperienced one. But you sincerely think no one else is looking very scummy other than JPap and Cat? I gave you the benefit of the doubt yesterday when countering someeone else's claim that you were playing differently than usual but it doesn't seem at all like you to only have your eyes on someone that has made as many blunders as Jpap (note to Jpap-they're there and they've been pointed out) and a newbie that is so confused that I had to check when the babbling serum might have been used. (I like you Cat, sincerely so please forgive. :lipssealedsmilie


Actually I'd not say that was an evil sign because it is a new rule from what I know. None of the games I have been in has the mod allowed a vote for no one. I didn't even notice the new rule until earlier today. I'm sure me trying to explain that makes me even more evil in your mind.

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You will look silly if I am gone tonight