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We may be dealing with ich!!! I know you are supposed to pump up the temperature and add salt or ich meds, but there isn't a way for me to raise the temperature becuase the kit I got for my tank came with a pre-set heater and it doesn't adjust! :wall: would simply adding salt or ich meds be effective as well? Which one should I add (I have both)??

Also... will the salt or meds kill snails?
 
i had ich problem probably about 9 months ago... i couldn't raise my temp either... so what i done was... gradually add salt so my fish wouldn't get hit with such a strong dose of salt... and WATER Changes..... and remember... each gallon of water u take out, add salt back to that gallon...
 
I had an outbreak of ick myself...the only thing I can tell you is that I was advised to remove my bridgesii from the tank, and was told that the salt or ick medicine should not harm the MTS's or ramshorns, other snails I haven't a clue about.
 
Ok, I'm going to add a tbsp of salt and then do a water change tomorrow and add some more salt. Does that sound good? My snails are pond snails I beleive. They came as "hitch hikers" on my live plants, but I kind of like them. :)
 
Edit: How big is the tank? The salt dosage is more like 2 TBS/5 g. There's a sticky on it written by Guppy? (I think). I'm looking for it right now, it seems to have disappeared.
Edit: Didn't find the sticky but found this by Lupin at http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169765

Treatment:
Salt
Increase the temperature to at least 84-86 degrees as much as the fish can tolerate. Add aquarium or table salt (dissolved in water) at a ratio of 2 teaspoons of salt per gallon of water in your tank. While waiting, it does not hurt to add a powerhead or airstone to increase the oxygen level. Over the first couple days, your fish will appear worse and will eventually recover as the treatment progresses. In most cases, ich will disappear on the sixth day. However, there is still a probability that some cysts have not yet ruptured so it is advisable to keep the treatment up for full ten days.
 
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You can treat Ich without the heat, but it takes much longer. Heat just speeds up the cycle. The Ich parasite is a protozoan that is too small to be seen at first and may be in the fish's gills, their mouth, nose, under the skin, etc.

At the stage that you see them as salt specks they have erupted from the skin. After a time on the skin as specks, they fall off and to the substrate where they form cysts that, after multiplying inside, rupture and release the free swimming protozoan that, again, is too small to be seen, but it is at this stage that it is vulnerable to the salt and the Ich meds.

The heat speeds up the cycle so that at 84-86 degrees the specks fall off in about four days, and then after a couple of days the cysts rupture and the free swimmers die in the saltwater.

You can treat Ich with salt alone, but unheated it could take up to six weeks to complete the cycle. You might want to go ahead and invest in a good heater.

What size tank is it? A 50 watt Marineland Stealth VisiTherm heater would be fairly inexpensive and could adquately heat a 10 gallon, or less, up to probably 86 degrees.

I think I would want to speed it up as much as possible to reduce stress to the fish.

It is 2 Tsp per gallon. Some say a tablespoon, which is 3 tsp per gallon.

I'm treating for Ich that came from some plants I got at my lfs, and I've been doing 86 degrees for 4 days, 2 tsp of salt per gallon. I've done approx 80% waterchanges each day, (because I had lost my biofilter due to a power failure and so essentially I have an uncycled tank), and put back into the tank the proper amount of water with 2 tsp per gallon.

Today all the specks are off, I expect that by day six the free swimmers will all be dead, but I will go for another week just to be dang sure.
 
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My first day of treatment, I took out about 75% of the tank water and put back into it the replacement water with 2 tsp of salt per gallon of replacement water. (I have a 10 gallon tank)

The next day I did an 80% water change, and this time, I mixed up 2 tsp of salt for 10 gallons, adding it with the 8 gallons I put back into the tank.

Third day I took out 80% (8 gallons) and put back 8 gallons that had 2 tsp salt per gallon of replacement water.

Today I found that my tank had cycled, nitrites and amonia were at 0 so I only took out 30% (3 gallons) but I put a little more salt per gallon this time. Probably about 8 tsp total, rather than the 6 tsp total for three gallons of replacement water.

I want to kick some Ich butt. I have a Brochis, which is a cory, and two Ottos.
All are supposedly sensitive, but from reading other posts they do well with the heat/salt method.

I did remove my snails, my 2 african dwarf frogs, shrimp, and some ramshorns, and the plants. They are in a 10 gallon heated (80 degree) filtered tank. The protozoan will die after 4 days with no host in that tank.
 
Whatever you do, don't use any copper based meds in the tank without removing your snails. Even after treatment you'll probably never be able to house inverts in that tank. I learned that the hard way =/
 
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