Tired of Maracyn treatment cost per gallon

CWO4GUNNER said:

I only have five, one 60, two 80's, a 100, and my 244 which has satisfied my in house MTS. What I want next is a pond under a gazebo 12'X12' in the back yard.

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I bet these tank occupy good amount of your time. Who needs TV when you have MTS.

Pond in the back yeard, Huh?

At least you can jump in during summer to swim with fish as I have. Well least waist high.

I had built 12 ' x 18' x 2' indoor pond using either 5 x 5 or 8 x 8 treated lumber and 1" dowels to hold lumber stacked at each corner (required core drilling and lots pounding to drive the dowels..
It looked like Ranch fence from outside and but lined with plywood and pond liner inside. One corner of the pond i build platform to build DIY water fall using cement mix and lathe with epoxy coating. My original plan was to somehow incorporate enclosure to stock amphibians on this water fall and platform which I could not complete but end up installing water mill which was also beautiful. Added diy plant box at the perimeter of the 4 x 4 frame where I can dump some pond water which was a great ferlizer.

Good Luck with new project(s).

But I truly appreciate the heads up and will be taking you up on that great tip maybe for my own meds if this health care bill passes, Ill have to do my own doctoring rather then standing in line at the GOV run system, you know like the DMV.

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LOL, aint that the truth, but don't get me started there. But, if you ever are in a situation where you need to treat a large tank (200g+) with tetracycline, it can be quite an expensive treatment using the treatments I have seen at the LPS.

I have had great success with the tricide neo dip followed up with medicated food for fin disease which is usually bacterial and not a fungus (or the fungus is secondary). A fellow koi enthusiest passed on this recipe to me for medicated koi food:

To one pound of fish food mix as follows...
To 10 ml of LA-200 (tetracycline purchased at a tractor supply) I add 10 ml of fish oil (from GNC) and mix well.
I put one pound of fish food in a plastic baggie and add the oil/LA-200 mix and shake well to mix.
I feed as the sole ration for not less than 10 days.
Works well as a systemic antibiotic for external and internal bacterial infections.

The problem with a lot of anti-biotic treatments is they are not effective if introduced into tank/pond water with a ph above 7.5. This leaves you with two options, injections and or medicated food.

As for the mode of action for the tricide-neo:

The antibiotic potentiator in Tricide-Neo has a rather interesting mode of activity that facilitates its spectrum of activity. Tricide-Neo creates holes (Figure 2) in the bacterial cell wall which in-turn allows antibiotics to the organism, destroys the effectiveness of the bacteria's efflux pump and facilitates osmotic collapse of the bacterium. Because the potentiator causes direct physical damage to the bacteria, one is able to use less antibiotic than would normally be necessary and exposed bacteria are less likely to develop resistance to the chosen antibiotic."

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*taken from koi-vet: http://www.koivet.com/koivet/index....or-koi&catid=36:medicine-treatments&Itemid=57

I dont know if this helps or if anyone need in suck bulk but try www.fishchemical.com.

Dont know if they sell to individuals but worth trying.

CWO4GUNNER said:

"WE CURRENTLY STOCK OVER 65 TROPICAL FISH PHARMACEUTICALS FOR WHOLESALE DISTRIBUTION, AND ALWAYS WELCOME SPECIAL ORDERS. "

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Like I said, wasnt sure since I had no problems as fish/fish diseases were my profession. I dealt mostly with other manufacturers/laboratories which are def. on wholesale level.

Although i never dealt with the following Co. (www.nationalfishpharm.com) they seemd have products which are not commonly found in pet fish industry plus same or similar products which are readily available to hobbyist.
They seemed to do both wholesale/retail and plus they say they have staffs who can assit or may have literatures which one can learn from and/or broaden one's scope thus try when thing dont go as planned.

"I am really concerned over incorrect use or overuse of med on hobby level". Try the Pros who may assist in narrowing down the possibilities and assist in choosing better choices of meds.

Just a thought!

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