37 gallon + sump reef log

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Hey all. I've been building my own tank setup and figured I might as well post some pics and updates as I go along.

I'm pretty new to this hobby, I've started out with a 1 gallon pico - upgraded to a 2.5 gallon pico and onto a 10 gallon nano. My latest adventure has been this 37 gallon + sump. It's a bit of an overkill for what it is - still nano land, but it's been a fun experience so far and I've learned at least a couple things.

As for the 37 gallon I had it drilled on the sides originally since I wanted to be able to view it from 3 sides, but that plan fell through and so I decided to just keep going with it anyways. Please bear with me as I explain it, I'm guessing someone is bound to ask what is that... so I'll try my best to explain.

The vertical pipe is my 1" drain pipe, which I've implemented an adjustable pipe so I can regulate my water level better. I've seen some where they tilt the pvc elbow to achieve this, but I wanted something a little cleaner. The drain does go through a series of 90 degree corners, which I may change in the future to a 45 degree. The drain continues across and into my drain tube which will contain my bio-media. I can place phosphate, carbon, etc in here as well as bio-balls. (I know there is conflicting opinions on the bio-balls, but I want to try them) I will be adding some mud and a mangrove plant later as my parameters permit.

There are the traditional 3 baffles to separate the chambers and to help cut down on micro bubbles, which at the moment doesn't seem to be doing a very good job of. I may need to raise the water level of my return section to cut down on the bubbles. Over the top I have a 11w pc, I only have one in there now and can add a second, but for now there really is no need for 22w of lighting in there.

The return pump being used is a ViaAqua 1800 rated @ 476 gph, I'm estimating that it puts close to 300g/hr after height and distance. This travels up a flex hose into a 45 degree to 90 then into my return nozzles. I have a check valve in case of power/pump failure. It is capped at the end to help ensure the pressure is even. (in theory?) The two black nozzles are pointed in such a way to create a swirl. There is quite a swirl too, I was concerned with enough water flow, but it looks to be sufficient. I may decide make the flow fight against each other, still debating. I may need to add a power head later. The center cap is actually drilled and a constant stream is going upward.

Right now missing:
Drain Cup - once the sand and rock are in I'll add this
Skimmer - don't need it at the moment
Lighting - planning on sub 500w halide + pc
Live Sand - once i get the salinity and other parameters stable
Live Rock - once i get the sand settled
Of course fish and corals, but much later.

I tested for about two weeks with fresh water out on my patio with various setups and this seems to be pretty efficient. I've been running it about 48 hours in the house now with RO/DI'd water with no leaks, woohoo. The wife is happy. Only time will tell. This is probably a bit of an overkill for such a small tank, and if I had it my way - and a bigger bank account I would've opted for a 90-120 gallon tank instead.

Let me know your thoughts, positives and criticism - just don't flame me for trying.


jkt


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overkill? in my opinion, there is no such thing. you should see my 10 gallon ;)
looks great so far. everything looks clean and nicely put together!
 
Update

Thanks man. I figure if I keep it organized as I go, I won't be freakin out at the end - really there is no end!

Do you have any pic of your tank? I looked and noticed you have over 1k posts, so I'm guessing somewhere in all those is a pic of your tank!

Well I added 50lbs of sand tonight, settled very nicely. Now I'm trying to decide whether to buy the LFS live sand for $24.99/10lbs or just use a LR from my 10 gallon.

I also thought about ordering 10lbs of grunge from GARF and since they are local to me, I can just meet them for a pickup with very little die-off.

I have limited knowledge here - should I go ahead and toss a LR in there or go for grunge or LFS bag of life?

Thanks guys and gals!

jkt


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i actualy dont have any pics of it yet cause i am just setting up. i have a lot of pics of y 40 gallon, but none of my 10. i should be replacing the bulb to a 20000K today, so perhaps i will take some...
 
most live sands are argonite. all argonite is is CaCO3. this is what coral skeleton is made out, which is what the sand round on a reef or in the general hemosphere of a reef is made out of. caribsea makes a live argonite sand. granted, if you go to thebeach up here in long island or rhode island, you will get live sand (as well as other things, like hepatitis. lol) but you wouldnt get argonite. but any packaged live sand that is from a reef area, such as the caribsea will also be argonite.
however, if you arent dead set on getting live sand, a regular argonite would be a much cheaper version. a nd grins is right, it will soon become live :)
 
Cool, thanks guys - I really don't want the hepatitis either!

I just dropped 50lbs of sugar sand in there - maybe I'll just let me LR seed the sugar sand. I've been adding NitroMax the last couple of days, so I figure once my pH comes in line I'll be adding some LR and a damsel.

I was going to put miracle mud in my sump - could I put the live sand from my 10 gallon in there instead? It would eventually seed the main tank as well?

I added more water - but I'll post pics after I drop in a live rock and my damsel.


jkt
 
Cool, thanks guys - I really don't want the hepatitis either!

I just dropped 50lbs of sugar sand in there - maybe I'll just let me LR seed the sugar sand. I've been adding NitroMax the last couple of days, so I figure once my pH comes in line I'll be adding some LR and a damsel.

I was going to put miracle mud in my sump - could I put the live sand from my 10 gallon in there instead? It would eventually seed the main tank as well?

I added more water - but I'll post pics after I drop in a live rock and my damsel.


jkt

Regarding the pH, what salt mix are you using?

Its all down to personal preference when it comes to what goes in the refugium in the, whether it be a deep sand bed or miracle mud...Personaly, i like sand....

Yes, you can use sand from you other tank if you want too...however, normal (aragonite) sand that you have used for the display tank will be absolutly fine..This will seed when you add some live rock rubble ontop of the sand bed...

Oh, and Fishieness is the King of Overkill, i kid you not !!!!.... :grinyes:

Niko
 
Instant Ocean salt mix - seems to be favored by most.

My pH is a little low - it's 7.8-8.0, so I've added a buffer to it and we'll see. I'd like it to be a definitive 8.0 before I move anything from my old tank over.

pH - 7.8-8.0
Ammonia- 0
Nitrate- 0
Nitrite- 0

I think I'm going to add my live sand to the sump instead of the main tank. I want to keep that real clean sandbed look. I also think I want a jawfish. I should be able to grow calurpa and mangroove plants with a crushed coral sandbed right?

I better add a picture soon - I've seen what happens to the others when they go more then a few posts w/o pics! ^^

jkt
 
but I'll post pics after I drop in a live rock and my damsel.

Did not see that first time around..i would not have one of them, they are very territorial and can be nasty towards new inhabitants to the tank...And can be a real pita when you come to remove them...

Instant Ocean salt mix - seems to be favored by most.

My pH is a little low - it's 7.8-8.0, so I've added a buffer to it and we'll see. I'd like it to be a definitive 8.0 before I move anything from my old tank over.

pH - 7.8-8.0
Ammonia- 0
Nitrate- 0
Nitrite- 0

I think I'm going to add my live sand to the sump instead of the main tank. I want to keep that real clean sandbed look. I also think I want a jawfish. I should be able to grow calurpa and mangroove plants with a crushed coral sandbed right?

I better add a picture soon - I've seen what happens to the others when they go more then a few posts w/o pics! ^^

jkt

You want to be aiming for around 8.2 - 8.3 area for your pH....

Personaly, i like Reef Crystals for salt...has great added elements and never suffered any pH issues when using it...

I would not use crushed coral as your substrate, its notorious for trapping detrius and causing elevated nitrate readings, my advice would be to stick to the sugar grade aragonite reef sand....

Just caulerpra on its own would be fine, dont really see a need for the mangroves...

Just an opinion of course..

Niko
 
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