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Hello all.

This is my second post (first was in the invertebrate section).

I've been out of the aquarium hobby for 15+ years... but recently (within a couple months) got back into it. In years past, I "specialized" in silver arowanas. The last one I had was kept in a 125 gallon, and s/he got big enough to eat the mice that my parent's cat would catch... wow, that was some time ago!

That fish was more like an aquatic dog than a fish. S/he would get quite excited when I walked into the room and pace back and forth as I walked past. But, that was then, and this is now...

My interest re-started when my wife, 3 year old son and I went to petco for some dog food (we have two Dobermans). My son took an interest in the fish, so we got a betta and a bowl...

That quickly evolved into a 2.5 gallon tank. That turned into my current 7.7 gallon planted aquarium.

This setup consists of about 15 pounds of eco complete, a HOB filter (came with the tank), fluorescent lighting (specificially for plants) and a marineland 25 watt heater. The tank measures 20x9x9 inches or so, so its rather shallow. It's planted with baby tears, amazon swords (they'll out grow the tank I'm sure), some clover, moss ball, banana plants and another low-growing sword-like plant that got its start in the intial betta bowl. I ordered an anubias to attach to some african driftwood (I have 3 pieces in tank already) and also a bunch of Ludwigia glandulosa. I'm thinking of removing the clover and replacing it with the ludwigia...

Water parameters are spot-on and temp is at 75 degrees. My ph is high, at about 8... the 7.7 gallon has only been setup for about 3 weeks, so I assume things will even out a little more as time goes on.

The residents of the 7.7 are: male halfmoon red/blue betta, a white standard female betta and 8 neon tetras. I figured I'd give the male-female betta thing a try, and while he will occasionally chase her, he pretty much leaves her alone.

I also introduced 3 orange shrimp... the LFS didn't say what species, but they look identical to a RCS, save the color... so I assume they're just a genetic variance of RCS.

All creatures are doing well and the shrimp have grown and are bright orange. Now if only my male betta would stop building bubble nests! :rolleyes:

I just received a batch of 30 juvenile RCS and they are currently in the old 2.5 gallon, also planted with a mix of eco complete and cleaned playground sand and african driftwood. Same water parameters.

I'm hoping to grow the juvenile RCS and put a few in the 7.7 gallon... also hoping they'll breed so I can "spread the wealth" to some friends.

I'm just concerned that if I add any RCS to the 7.7 gallon that it'll negatively impact the bioload... so I've already considered removing the female betta in the event it comes to it.

Anyway, thanks for "listening".

7.7 gallon (iPhone pic)
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2.5 gallon juvenile RCS tank (iPhone pic)
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that tank sounds like a battle zone waiting to happen...
 
that tank sounds like a battle zone waiting to happen...

In what regard? The two bettas? Betta and shrimp?

I don't think my bettas even know the shrimp are in there... could care less. The male and female have been together for awhile... already attempted to breed once, about a month ago.

Please explain! I don't want to wake up to disaster!
 
I am guessing she meant the bettas. It is normally a terrible idea to put either two males together or a male/female unless for breeding. Lately though, I have seen more and more reports of such things being done successfully. Where the rule says not to, there will always be exceptions. Consider yourself one of the lucky ones if it really does work out long term.
 
Pretty tanks! I too would be nervous about the male and female betta residing in the same tank, but I've heard of it done before too... just depends a LOT on their personalities. It's pretty uncommon though, and I would recommend that if you see any harassment that they ought to be separated. The 2.5 gallon tank could serve as a home for the female, for instance.
Good luck with the whole thing! You've got some great potential there.
 
Call me nuts, but the male and female were in the 2.5 together for well over a month... that's the tank they first attempted to breed in...

In general, she hides, comes out to eat and gets the male all fired up, then goes about her business as he "patrols" the front of the tank. He's a halfmoon, so, from eyeing things up, he appears smaller than a regular betta... she's a female regular betta... she isn't much smaller than him and will even assert herself on him occassionally; she'll come out, approach him and give him a few choice "words" (flare up) and they just leave eachother alone... its a love-hate relationship between the two... with neither getting beaten up at all... more like a demilitarized zone/peace treaty arrangement.

However, the male is building another bubble nest... good grief.

As far as them FIGHTING... if that ever happened, she'd be out quick. My neighbor has a nano also, and would like to adopt her. The 2.5 is for the shrimp, and I think she'd eat the baby shrimp if she was in there.
 
As for the tanks themselves... more plants are enroute and it'll eventually become a forest once everything fills in.
 
They don't have to be fighting for the female to be stressed. I'd just keep an eye on her. The male could be tormenting her but not attacking her, if that makes sense. I didn't mean to sound so negative sorry lol. The tanks are beautiful :)
 
They don't have to be fighting for the female to be stressed. I'd just keep an eye on her. The male could be tormenting her but not attacking her, if that makes sense. I didn't mean to sound so negative sorry lol. The tanks are beautiful :)


She's actually more of the tormentor... she's the one who seeks him out for absolutely no reason. He could be at the opposite end of the tank, and... oh, look who comes wandering over... half-curled up, fins flared... she'll often do this while he's eating... gets him from behind. Come to think of it, I may need to evict her for HIS safety!
 
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