The ABS issue

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Wippit Guud

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Man... a lot of good information gone, again... anyways, did some digging on the internet... here's a few things available to purchase, that use water, that are made of ABS:

http://www.campingworld.com/browse/products/index.cfm?prodID=1458

This is an ABS water entry port for RV's.

http://www.espressoparts.com/index.php/categories/14/146

Pipes for an expresso machine. So this even cludes the heat issues

http://www.chemicals-technology.com/contractors/safety/haws
http://www.nlsanimalhealth.com/store/eyewash.shtm

Here's big kicker #1... those are two sites that sell ABS eyewash stations. For those of you unfamiliar with them, they're used to clean chemicals that get into your eyes somehow. I don't think they'd use a material that leeches poison in a medical device.

http://doitbest.com/shop/dept.asp?paging_code=10&dept_id=1406

And here's big kicker #2... these are pond liners. Those big black liners you see everywhere. I'm sure several people here have ponds with these liners and have had fish in them for long periods of time, so any effect would be noticable.

I'm not trying to start arguements, just posting info.
 

Wippit Guud

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Wait... you can delete stuff?

No, this post is to stay, I won't delete it even if 20 people show up and start yelling at me.
 

kveeti

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slipknottin

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how about pictures?



thats a mag-drive pump made by Danner... by far the most common submersible pump in aquarium applications.





im expecting emails from a bunch of aquarium product makers who i suspect use ABS in their products.
 

JamisonBWolsh

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The reason I deleted it was someone said I could get sued for what I said about companies. So im not going to say anything about any of those links. You can provide all the links you in fact.

I just got back from the Hardware store (A major store- wont name it co I cant get sued), but they have a sign located where they sell the abs piping warning of chemicals, blah blah blah, dont use it for drinking water..blah blah blah...Pretty much a sign saying that if you use the abs for drinking water, you cant sue them. What is interesting, it states a NEW california Law regulating this type of Plastic.

Even if you look at the black plastic, you can 100 percent tell the difference between the outside and inside of the pipe (alot shinnier, smoother to touch, and softer). You can tell something was added to it. You can show me all the links you want, but I saw with My own eyes and read the warnings posted. there is NO WAY in -=-- that I will add that in my tank. Stop by your hardware store and find out yourself.

No names given..so no lawsuits.
 

slipknottin

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the inside is not coated.... its polished.

what chemicals did it say were in ABS?

There are already numerous things for aquariums made of ABS. Are all these companies doing something wrong? You might want to e-mail them all and explain how toxic it is. Send some to all the people that are using ABS in the food industry too. None of them are aware of how dangerous ABS is...

look at those tables of how toxic ABS is... its rated the same as PVC... thats awful.
 

slipknottin

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First response ive recieved

Yes, we
use ABS
for our overflow boxes. Also on our bowfront and corner aquariums, we
use
ABS for our caps, some of the frame, and part of the stand.

Regards,

SARAH RANSTROM
Sarah Ranstrom
Customer Service Representative
Oceanic Systems Inc.
i sent a reply asking if they had any concerns with it leeching any "nasties" into the water. No reply yet.
 

Wippit Guud

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Who said you could get sued by naming companies? Watch this...
MICROSOFT SUCKS!

Anyways, if they make pond liners out of this stuff, and some people here have had ponds for quite a while with no ill effects, I'd say there's no danger to fish. If they use it for medical uses, I can't see it being poisonous at all.
 
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