Mafia #6.....The Play
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I am logging off for the night. I'll be back on around 5 AM if I can manage to get up early. If not, I'll be back around 5 PM.
OgreMkV
Father of Earth's Next Emperor
Z, let me just say that IMO, your posting style is different enough to concern me. Your voting is also, but then I'm not convinced about hooked at all. That's your perogative, I really don't have an opinion on hooked. I can't spend the time on this that I'd like to.
Because of that last bit, I find myself having to rely on some information that is more 'feeling' that logic. As I said, in game 4, from day one, I considered you innocent. Same for game 5, but I was mafia and you were the detective. Game 6, I don't get the feeling of innocence from you. Maybe it's the JMax thing, maybe it's the agreement with Ice, maybe it's something I can't pin down, but something is there and saying not to trust you too far.
Here's what I think. I think that Coler was a pretty good first choice for the mafia (and WHY, IN GOD'S NAME didn't the doc protect Coler?). Now, if the mafia don't hit Ice tonight, then I'll consider him suspect number one and will vote accordingly.
I'm still not really willing to put my vote in Mad yet. I think there is way too much steamrolling in these games... however, some people I do trust are voting Mad as well. I have to consider that. Half of Mad's votes are people I do not trust and half are people I do trust. That in itself is almost enough to convince me that Mad is innocent.
The mafia group won't spend that much effort one of there own and if Mad is innocent, then the townies I trust are being led astray.
The only vote I have now is Mike... well Ice..., but I'm willing to see what happens tonight.
Because of that last bit, I find myself having to rely on some information that is more 'feeling' that logic. As I said, in game 4, from day one, I considered you innocent. Same for game 5, but I was mafia and you were the detective. Game 6, I don't get the feeling of innocence from you. Maybe it's the JMax thing, maybe it's the agreement with Ice, maybe it's something I can't pin down, but something is there and saying not to trust you too far.
Here's what I think. I think that Coler was a pretty good first choice for the mafia (and WHY, IN GOD'S NAME didn't the doc protect Coler?). Now, if the mafia don't hit Ice tonight, then I'll consider him suspect number one and will vote accordingly.
I'm still not really willing to put my vote in Mad yet. I think there is way too much steamrolling in these games... however, some people I do trust are voting Mad as well. I have to consider that. Half of Mad's votes are people I do not trust and half are people I do trust. That in itself is almost enough to convince me that Mad is innocent.
The mafia group won't spend that much effort one of there own and if Mad is innocent, then the townies I trust are being led astray.
The only vote I have now is Mike... well Ice..., but I'm willing to see what happens tonight.
There a bright statement... so if I post too much, I am mafia, if I post too little I am mafia... if I post in the middle I can only assume I am mafia and trying to mimic non mafia?? Seriously, your attacking and bantering is of no help to whatever side you are on, if you are innocent which I HIGHLY doubt you are not doing us any favors by filling the board with your bantar. If you are mafia, thankfully your aggrssive ways are making people keep a close eye on you.
Cool.. If people want to keep an eye on me.. Great no problem. I don't have a problem with that. What I stated was you were posting nothing of value and those posts make you look more like mafia. If you were to start actually posting substantive information instead of just creating misdirection you probably would have zero votes today.
Ok, I see much has transpired since I left work. I picked out a few posts to respond to for now.
Ogre, if I may ask, is that your only suspicion of me? I tried explaining it a few times, especially after Ice posted something about the importance of garnering information over saving numbers. I wouldn't have called that a lynch train, I was looking at it more as what was best for the town. I backed off after 1) realizing it would be another day before JM would get booted anyway, and 2) Ice's post about getting information. I have posted (several times actually, I'll go find them if you like) that its a split decision with benefit for the town either way. We vote her off and can avoid possibly losing an innocent to the noose - maintaining the numbers advantage as long as possible. Or, we let her go and lynch someone else, possibly but not necessarily losing another townie, but gaining info for back research on 2 people instead of one. Its pretty clear to me that it could be argued both ways, and I think most people accepted that. On that basis, it makes it a poor point to hinge a lynch vote on.
Ok Ogre is reaaaally pushing this point, and like I stated, there are two points of view, both with relative merits, and that makes it a bad basis for judgement. A blanket statement like "whoever votes for such and such is obviously mafia", the very thing you complain about in that second sentence, you are now using as the basis for your judgement. Flawed logic IMO.
I didn't really have anything of import to say about this, I just thought it was hella funny :evil_lol:
Ogre, if I may ask, is that your only suspicion of me? I tried explaining it a few times, especially after Ice posted something about the importance of garnering information over saving numbers. I wouldn't have called that a lynch train, I was looking at it more as what was best for the town. I backed off after 1) realizing it would be another day before JM would get booted anyway, and 2) Ice's post about getting information. I have posted (several times actually, I'll go find them if you like) that its a split decision with benefit for the town either way. We vote her off and can avoid possibly losing an innocent to the noose - maintaining the numbers advantage as long as possible. Or, we let her go and lynch someone else, possibly but not necessarily losing another townie, but gaining info for back research on 2 people instead of one. Its pretty clear to me that it could be argued both ways, and I think most people accepted that. On that basis, it makes it a poor point to hinge a lynch vote on.
Ok Ogre is reaaaally pushing this point, and like I stated, there are two points of view, both with relative merits, and that makes it a bad basis for judgement. A blanket statement like "whoever votes for such and such is obviously mafia", the very thing you complain about in that second sentence, you are now using as the basis for your judgement. Flawed logic IMO.
I didn't really have anything of import to say about this, I just thought it was hella funny :evil_lol:
I am done with this useless exchange that is doing nothing but distracting the people form their real goals. I will no longer be communicate with you as I choose not to communicate with mafia members.
I thought you had read the other games? This defense has been used by just about every newbie mafia EVAR. It just doesn't help your status.
OgreMkV
Father of Earth's Next Emperor
OK, after a brief review, I think sploke is less mafia than previously. I forgot that he voted for Ice... can't be that bad.
