Wow Ice, you sure are trying really hard to cover your *** because you know that when I am lynched and come up as Innocent people will start to look at those who were pushing the hardest, and whether you started it or not, you sure are pushing for it the loudest and hardest.
Oh and look, now Ice is trying to sow the seed of doubt so that when I show up as Innocent he can get people to believe I was a Don and not really an Innocent to take the heat off himself.
Here'a a post that makes me nervous. Day of the lynch, and you want to point out it was Mad and i that started all this, in case it goes bad. Makes me think you already know its going to go bad. With little to go on, Sway is the best thing i could come up with. Believe me, i understand its a thin case, but she doesn't seem to be fighting too hard to find a replacement. If a better case were made by someone i would change my vote. Others i am looking closely at:
Joander- skimming the thread, as well his odd posts especially the ones around the time he voted for sway
Jpap- seemed to wanna get his vote out early, makes me a little edgy
KOTD- what 3-4 posts now??? Is this mafia or a power role lying low??
The speed with which this train on Swayde got going makes me really uneasy. If the mafia know she is innocent (or at least not on their own mafia team), they're going to be quick to jump on early. If she's an innocent, then thats 10 people rather than just 5 that will be willing to go along with it. With this many mafia I think we're going to have to be very wary of the trains getting started like this. Also, Ice so pointedly making it clear that, "hey, when we lynch an innocent, it wasn't my fault"...why making it that clear, you know something we don't?
Z's post from yesterday is still nagging at me, so just as an attempt to stir up some trouble
I vote to lynch ZSandmann
There are 2 things that have happened since my last posts that concern me...The Ice back-peddle makes me VERY leary....It seems like people only want to cover their tracks if they have something to hide. The second thing is that I placed so huge concerns about watachicken out there and her only response was the the computer was acting up but then it was time to watch a movie. No strong defense, no suspect list to say "I know I was unable to help, but here's my contribution to the town now that I'm back." I'm tempted to change my vote but I'm going to think on it a bit before heading out to work....
i agree DC that the ice back peddle scares me a bit too. It seems as if he knows what swayde is and doesnt want to be associated with his death. It def spooks me.
I agree that Ice's back peddling is something of a concern.
I know that people do not agree, but this first day we are all pretty much in the dark. If we get a mafia, then great, the odds are in our favor to get one.
At this point, I do not see any glaring signs that Swayde is any more mafia than anyone else. It really seems these first few days we lynch the vocal ones.
While I am not against lynching Swayde, because we will learn something from it, I am not sure if I like the idea of so many people voting the same way on the first day.
Also, the person starting the train is not always the one leading the train.
If Swayde is innocent, then I think we should look into Ice.
If Swayde is mafia, then we should look at those that did not vote for her or voted late. I do not think the mafia would vote for their own on the first day.
that line there is baffling to me. If he truely feels that swayde is mafia, which his vote would reflect, why on earth would he feel the need to say something like this?
I dont know what everyone else is thinking, but i wouldnt be opposed to an vote for ice switch over after a comment like that.
Isn't this pretty much like the same reason ppl got on swayde "defending before attacked?" Ice you really worry me with this post
K guys I knew when I left this morning I didn't explain it well. I shouldn't post before my 1st cup of coffee.
My 1st vote was nothing more than that.A quick vote to get things rolling. 2 people had already posted numerous times about Sway and her not going to be around post. But no one wanted to be the 1st voter, for the very reason that they didn't want to be a train starter.
I voted to get discussions going. I DIDN'T know that EVERYONE was just going to jump in and vote Sway. I was looking for a Sway response and for anyone that would try to protect her. I kept the pressure on because no one was saying anything. I wanted discussion not just votes. Train voting doesn't help us find mafia, it doesn't force response or defensiveness.
When I woke up this morning and saw how everyone jumped on her train it made me nervous. Maybe she isn't Mafia after all. I wanted to make sure just because I was the 1st to vote doesn't mean I knew one way or the other and didn't want to be held accountable for something 2 other people actually started. I'm not trying to distance myself, you are all mafia until proven different. I just didn't like what I saw happening.
I don't understand Sways post about showing up innocent if she is the Don, the Dons role is displayed upon death.
I'm not convinced that Sway is innocent even after her responses. I think she over did it with multiple posts, but I have also been wary of Jo for better reasons. He has back peddled many times already and has done it again. He looks more mafia to me then Sway does, but I don't want to switch just to have everyone follow me again.
I AM NOT GOD don't follow me just because you think I play this game well. Follow me because you see the same thing.
Which brings me to another point. Why would I be anymore a target then the others that have jumped on after me. Isn't it more likely that the mafia saw a chance to get a train rolling and once 3 or 4 votes fell they just piled on?
We can't think with the normal wisdom of past games. With 2 teams there is no normal vote pattern. Not until we whittle the numbers down.
Hope that explains it a little better.
