Zombies -- Mafia #11

[johnlarson66]

My top three:

ewurm - for being a Vikings fan, living that close to Canada
Lady G - for bouncing all over the place with her posts
DeputyChiefJR - for posting 3 minutes after leaving Lady G's bedroom

It is day one.

I think I have made my thoughts about day one before. I have used the word random before and have caught lots of slack. This is a day of learning.

I have voted, was it random, no. For whatever reason, no one has role played yet. I voted ewurm, mostly because I think he has a sense of humor and has gotten a good grasp on the game. I am surprised he voted back at me.

At this point, I see no one as jumping out as a zombie and do not think we will. ewurm is as good as a target as anyone else. We are all pretty much suspects at this time. Someone has to go. Whoever it is, I hope we learn from it.

I wanted to quote my own post from earlier today. I really hope people see the humor in my list and did not take it to heart. I have stated many times that day one lists are pointless.

 

[johnlarson66]

Just one more post then I have to call it a night, but will be online tomorrow from work.

If I was the LZ, I would turn the following three people first:

ewurm
Coler
LadyG

I would like to see a list from people as who they would turn to a zombie if they were the LZ.

Please answer the following:

If I was the LZ, I would turn the following three people first:

 

[charlie_stubbs]

BOO!!!!
i did not make it home in time to vote. I did not fail to participate because i'm a townie with no special role. I like being a townie. Good luck ACville!!!!

 

[IceH2O]

I'll explain my reasons for DC in a few.

But I was never against voting for Charlie

Wow DC scary!

We can't really let that be the tell all of a vote or not. What if he is evil and planned on a thought like that? Then he skates by because its a wasted vote. He has 2 votes on him. 1 more ties him with JL or someone could jump off JL and jump on Charlie.

I don't think there are any wasted votes this game, well not the 1st night. After that I think it goes back to no post/vote.

Now back to my search.

This entire post was about why I should vote for Charlie. What was scary was DC saying we shouldn't vote for Charlie. I saw no reason to lose Charlie plus Guppy, KOTD ,a turned innocent plus chance voting off an innocent. The chances were greater at voting for a power role then a zombie.

We now have 48 hours to look for mistakes by a zombie player. To look for teamwork by zombies. To see who follows what logic.

You're vote on me is fine if you think you're right. But if its because you think I went against my strategy then its a misvote on your part.

 

[DeputyChiefJR]

If I was LZ I would change:

DD
Ice
Mad

 

[OgreMkV]

That read wrong or could be taken wrong. I don't want to kill off our power roles. I'm just saying its the only way to prevent them from grabbing them.

This was basically what I said against Coler. I hate to bring it up, but just because someone else will...

Yes, and they could of got the Doc, BG or the Sheriff either way (there is no hunter or seer in this game DC).

No I don't like that Charlie was lynched but...we would of lost one more possibley innocent had they not voted Charlie. I just am not sure why Charlie was picked of KOTD or GUP. That is why I didn't switch cause I wasn't sure the reason for picking Charlie as opposed to the other two.

The difference was that charlie posted, then vanished. The others were never on.

I think DC KNEW Charlie was innocent and thats why the big hub bub about us voting charlie off.

Nice cover DC, protect the dead.

Like I said earlier no info was going to be found out with the votes spread out like they were. Zombies don't have the numbers to actually force a lynch and zombies wouldn't vote out an untimely death. It doesn't help them.

Ice, if the voting had stayed 3,2,2,1,1... then the zombies could have had almost anyone they wanted lynched... I doubt they would have been so obvious though.

Just one more post then I have to call it a night, but will be online tomorrow from work.

If I was the LZ, I would turn the following three people first:

ewurm
Coler
LadyG

I would like to see a list from people as who they would turn to a zombie if they were the LZ.

Please answer the following:

If I was the LZ, I would turn the following three people first:

Coler, Mad, Ice

Now, let's see here. I wasn't turned... There wasn't a bodyguard effect and the doc still can't do anything. It's now 3 to 9.

Let's keep a real close eye on each players posts to see if there is a difference between the last post and the first post after daybreak. Maybe someone will see something.

oh and Heroes was awesome!!! I'll try to sneak on during work again tomorrow and maybe again tonight.

 

[IceH2O]

I vote to lynch Lady G.Because she's fooled me far too long

No big deal right? 1st votes mean nothing right? Well maybe but its the reasoning that catches the eye. When a bad guy I always want to take out the good players,especially ones that are hard to read.

LG, I put your name out there to see how you'd react. I found it odd that since then you've been kind of bouncing around making some contradictory posts, as Ice has mentioned. You've also been defensive in a stand-offish way. I dunno if you're just scouting the field but you make it hard to tell who you're with or against. Due to this fact and your ability to play a convincing good guy while being a villain, I now feel comfortable leaving my vote on you.

Again the claim that because you're hard to read. I take this as better to have you gone then helping the town.

Nah, I was just saying, normally Charlie has shown up by now....If he ends up a night 1 death without people switching, I personally don't see those votes as helping the town....He didn't show up to react for the vote on him half an hour ago....I would rather we try to find an evil amongst those who are actually talking...But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

I've explained this already but will reiterate. The chances of traking out a zombie was nill. 2 players out of 15. The odds have never been worse. At least in my game a lucky shot ended the game. We had a better chance of lynching a power role then a zombie. There is a reason Rb wouldn't let us vote no one on night 1.

I highly suspect people voting for someone who will probably die. It's equal to voting for no one, it shows an unwillingness to try to win for the town early. And it's an easy excuse for zombies to turn around and say, "well you can't point your finger at me, I didn't do anything to hurt the town." (Except sit back and do nothing and take the easy path.) Twiddle your thumbs if you'd like, but I actually want to win.

Again, a vote for no one would have made this easier in this set up, thats why Rb wouldn't let us vote no one the 1st night. We'd basically be in the same boat. Down 3 to untimely death and 1 to a turn instead of possibly losing 5 innocents we only lose 4.

Wow, what a wonderful plan...(dripping with sarcasm)...So we lynched an innocent anyway and got no real information.....

I don't actually see how this makes a difference except instead of 5 players down we're only 4 down. Would you have felt better if we had lost 5 players and nobody on the innocent player was a zombie? There are only 2 of them at this time, hardly able to start a train without giving themselves away. If I were them I'd sit back and just vote for 2 people that no one else would consider

Ok, so the untimely deaths happened. We've lost 4 and we have no real evidence because half the town voted for the easy choice instead of having to show any of their hand. I'm going to look into those that voted charlie, not that it'll help much, we made a great cover for the zombies to vote under.

Again, what evidence would have come from lynching a different innocent?

Nope, I assumed those that didn't vote were innocent and busy and probably decided another game will come up, so why not take a break instead of playing a "boring innocent" rather than a power role or evil....

Why would anyone even consider this.? So next time KOTD or Charlie or Guppy plays and stays in the game we assume they are either power roles or evil? There isn't anything boring about being a townie and I think all 3 could have made great turns as KOTD is hard to read. Guppy could fly under the radar with some counseling and Charlie is just good at being bad.

Its more the protection aspect of his posts for Charlie then anything. If DC is a zombie what better way then to point all this out and throw suspicion at those that did take down an innocent. Who hasn't latched onto an innocent in hopes that it carries them under the radar?

As for my vote for Charlie. I was the 1st to vote for him. I decide to try and get more from JL and hope he changed his strategy and would either help us or screw up. I don't really trust anyone in the game yet so jumping on with any mini train wasn't an option to me. We were losing Charlie anyway so as I've stated already I'd rather vote off a loss then lose them plus another that we'd accidentally lynch.

I see it as win win. We lost 1 less person and didn't lynch a power role.


My vote on DC isn't set in stone but its a starting point.

 

[IceH2O]

If I was the LZ I would turn good players that stay under the radar:

Bkw

JL- though a bit of heat has already come his way, if not already a Z then I might wait to see if its cooled off.

Sway

and I'll throw in a 4th bc of the heat on JL

Ewurm- has proven he can play this game and he is an unknown for the most part. No real read on his gameplay.

Jpap is also a possible under the radar turn player



I would stay away from players like myself,Coler,Mad,Ogre, DD and LG because we're most likely to be investigated. If I were to try to turn them it would be later in the game when I have just as good a shot at them being killed. If I thought they were power roles I'd rather have them dead so I'd have them lynched.Unless I had investigated them and knew I was turning a Dr, BG,Sheriff or Mutant.

 

[bkw1982]

??????????????????


You must vote each Game Day, or you will experience an untimely death.


What about Guppy and KOTD?

Not that I am complaining or anything, but what happend to the untimely deaths of the people not voting? Sure one could have been the townie turned, but there were 2 who didn't vote and didn't get lynched...

My thoughts exactly. I mean I would rather have them here if they are both innocent but I am confused...

Im guessing one of these folks are a zombie......

Ice posted a good question, Swayde post seem to be made at the same time as ice. JPs post seems to be in response to either swaydes/ice post.

It did seem tht RB either forgot about the rule or was goin to let em slide, until it was brought up again.

I doubt ppl who communicate outside the thread will make the same post, so that leave me lookin at JP.

 

[DeputyChiefJR]

No big deal right? 1st votes mean nothing right? Well maybe but its the reasoning that catches the eye. When a bad guy I always want to take out the good players,especially ones that are hard to read.




Again the claim that because you're hard to read. I take this as better to have you gone then helping the town.




I've explained this already but will reiterate. The chances of traking out a zombie was nill. 2 players out of 15. The odds have never been worse. At least in my game a lucky shot ended the game. We had a better chance of lynching a power role then a zombie. There is a reason Rb wouldn't let us vote no one on night 1.




Again, a vote for no one would have made this easier in this set up, thats why Rb wouldn't let us vote no one the 1st night. We'd basically be in the same boat. Down 3 to untimely death and 1 to a turn instead of possibly losing 5 innocents we only lose 4.



I don't actually see how this makes a difference except instead of 5 players down we're only 4 down. Would you have felt better if we had lost 5 players and nobody on the innocent player was a zombie? There are only 2 of them at this time, hardly able to start a train without giving themselves away. If I were them I'd sit back and just vote for 2 people that no one else would consider



Again, what evidence would have come from lynching a different innocent?



Why would anyone even consider this.? So next time KOTD or Charlie or Guppy plays and stays in the game we assume they are either power roles or evil? There isn't anything boring about being a townie and I think all 3 could have made great turns as KOTD is hard to read. Guppy could fly under the radar with some counseling and Charlie is just good at being bad.

Its more the protection aspect of his posts for Charlie then anything. If DC is a zombie what better way then to point all this out and throw suspicion at those that did take down an innocent. Who hasn't latched onto an innocent in hopes that it carries them under the radar?

As for my vote for Charlie. I was the 1st to vote for him. I decide to try and get more from JL and hope he changed his strategy and would either help us or screw up. I don't really trust anyone in the game yet so jumping on with any mini train wasn't an option to me. We were losing Charlie anyway so as I've stated already I'd rather vote off a loss then lose them plus another that we'd accidentally lynch.

I see it as win win. We lost 1 less person and didn't lynch a power role.


My vote on DC isn't set in stone but its a starting point.

You're gonna feel pretty silly come Wed. evening and looking pretty bad, but that's your move to make.