Zombies -- Mafia #11

[johnlarson66]

You want her to reconsider giving up the names of the evils if she is turned evil?

Are you admitting she is innocent? Are you afraid that she is going to give up team member names?

I want her to play the game. If she is turned then be turned, bad or evil. It is part of the game.

I am not admitting she is innocent. I do not think she is innocent. The only thing that has me even close to thinking she is not a zombie is that she is willing to vote for the zombie czar.

My guess is that you and her and your turned victim will go after ewurm or DC. Ewurm has already been targeted by Lady G. So what is your turn victim gonna do? I had ewurm high on my lists, until the events of the last two nights. I am not sure who else did. It might be best for the zombies that he stays out of this and just votes for you.

It all comes down to how hard you, Ice, wants to remain in the game. Are you going to let the rest of the zombies risk themselves to save you. This might cost the zombies the game, but you will have gotten to play longer.

IMO, a good player is willing to die for his side, good or evil.

 

[IceH2O]

The thing is, though, that Coler admitted to following your vote on Day 2.

I was really hoping to have heard something from the 'new' townies by now... I vote to lynch IceH2O

But Coler is also the one that killed Ogre.

So he must have thought Ogre was evil right?

He might have been following me but why would he follow a zombie onto an innocent then try to turn the person the zombie is voting for?

 

[Lady G]

That is fine Ewurm you do what you feel you must. I agree with Ice being zombie, I can totally see how you and others may feel the same about me ok, I really do. What I think other need to look at though is Ice like's being evil he likes the "mind manipulations" he is playing you all (as w/ come on guy's just one more vote Coler) and trying to "set me up" if you will, yes I have somewhat followed with what Ice has said up to this point of the game, he made since to me and most likely had he not said that about "I didn't think Bkw would be lynched" I would still think he was innocent.

For what it is worth here is my scaled list. (1-innocent/10-evil)
JP-2
Swayde-3
Ice-10
Ewurm-6-7
DC-8
Mad-4
JL-8
LG-1
Brains-6
I am tossed between, JL, DC and Ewurm as being turned zombies

 

[IceH2O]

I want her to play the game. If she is turned then be turned, bad or evil. It is part of the game.

I am not admitting she is innocent. I do not think she is innocent. The only thing that has me even close to thinking she is not a zombie is that she is willing to vote for the zombie czar.

My guess is that you and her and your turned victim will go after ewurm or DC. Ewurm has already been targeted by Lady G. So what is your turn victim gonna do? I had ewurm high on my lists, until the events of the last two nights. I am not sure who else did. It might be best for the zombies that he stays out of this and just votes for you.

It all comes down to how hard you, Ice, wants to remain in the game. Are you going to let the rest of the zombies risk themselves to save you. This might cost the zombies the game, but you will have gotten to play longer.

IMO, a good player is willing to die for his side, good or evil.

It doesn't do the town any good for me to die, all it will show is I'm innocent and it gives the zombies the leverage to win the game tonight.

A good player does whats best for the town, dying isn't an option tonight.

A bad player says F it and lets the town go down with him.

 

[johnlarson66]

The only way I will switch is to you JL, the more you post the more I feel you and Ice working together, others don't see it I can't help that...believe it or not I understand how Ice play's when evil and this is soooo planned out it's not even funny. I am tossing between you and DC have been the whole game it seems. Every post I read of yours you stand out, then DC posts and well he stands out. The only way this could be is if Ewurm wasn't the change but the way he has changed completely OVER NIGHT just make me feel he was the change.
The only way I could see he wasn't the turn..is maybe, just maybe...he wasn't quite getting this round and didn't want to post much until he felt more comfortable with it. Now he feels there are 2 he can vote for so he feels better about it and is posting more. Which I can see why he and others view me as they do...but the only thing I can do to give you any comfort in me is tell you I am not zombie..of coarse that doesn't really comfort you I'm sure.
I'm looking more into JL and DC and will post more thoughts.

First off, I am trying to think of when Ice has been evil and the evils have won.

With that said, If Ice and I are partners, then we stink. Why would we be attacking each other? To take the heat off of the turned zombies?

Let's say he and DD were day one zombies, then he turned bkw and now has turned me. Or maybe DD and I were day one zombies, we turned bkw and I turned him.

The plan is that one of us dies, looks like a hero, we turn another person and the the one that did not die and the 2 turned ones are in with the town and turn and kill townies. Once Ice and I are gone, who will the town go after?

Our Zombie plan will leave the town in kaos!

So either way Ice and I must be zombies, we could not have both been day one zombies, but we both must be a zombie team. I say lynch us both. Lynch him today and me the next day.

I highly suspect that the next day I will be either dead or turned.

 

[IceH2O]

My guess is that you and her and your turned victim will go after ewurm or DC. Ewurm has already been targeted by Lady G. So what is your turn victim gonna do? I had ewurm high on my lists, until the events of the last two nights. I am not sure who else did. It might be best for the zombies that he stays out of this and just votes for you.

My vote has been on you since post 906, no plans to change it.

 

[IceH2O]

First off, I am trying to think of when Ice has been evil and the evils have won.

NEVER


With that said, If Ice and I are partners, then we stink. Why would we be attacking each other? To take the heat off of the turned zombies?

Let's say he and DD were day one zombies, then he turned bkw and now has turned me. Or maybe DD and I were day one zombies, we turned bkw and I turned him.

The plan is that one of us dies, looks like a hero, we turn another person and the the one that did not die and the 2 turned ones are in with the town and turn and kill townies. Once Ice and I are gone, who will the town go after?

Our Zombie plan will leave the town in kaos!

See he is doing exactly what I described earlier. Lynch off your turns and the town has no idea who to look at.

So either way Ice and I must be zombies, we could not have both been day one zombies, but we both must be a zombie team. I say lynch us both. Lynch him today and me the next day.

When I show innocent tonight DO NOT assume that means JL is innocent also.

I highly suspect that the next day I will be either dead or turned.

responses in red

 

[Lady G]

Using that logic Coler was evil.

He voted for Ogre 2 days in a row.

If I was zombie:

Day 1

I stay on JL kill off 5 innocents that day instead of 4.

Day 2

I would have voted DD since it was a lost cause and hit Ogre that night or done nothing. How did voting for Ogre help my cause?

Day 3

Bkw and Coler haven't voted, why push for Coler and put suspicion on me when he was going to die anyway.

I'm not evil I'm just a bad townie this game. With the turns you have to scrutinize every single post and word and it automatically makes you more likely to latch on to something trivial.

This is to both these post...personaly I think you planned on it looking this way for this EXACT reason, you could come back and say "why would I do that if I were evil"...I can see it running through the wheels in your mind as I type this. Day one and Day two, the zombies got a turn no matter what, really it didn't matter if the town took out a zombie, if you could get them to take out a innocent, added bonus to you, so yeah I could see you doing what you did to come back and say "but why would I do that?" As far as Coler yeah I think you planned that also, and I really think that you were counting on Bkw not being lynched instead dying an untimely death, taking Coler or myself, both innocent..only it didn't work the way you and Bk thought it would did it.

 

[johnlarson66]

My vote has been on you since post 906, no plans to change it.

Good luck. See you next game. I agree that one of us needs to go. This will be game over for one of us.

What did you think of my post about us being together? How about Lady G talking about you liking to be evil. When were you two evil together?

Personally, I love being evil. I also like being innocent. But being bad is more fun.

I do not think we would make good evil mates. I do not like to plan and cordinate the lynches, just plan and discuss the hits and who not to hit. It is always good to have a scapegoat.

I think I have been set up the scapegoat from day one, with your save on me, everyone was ready and willing to lynch me.

 

[ewurm]

I guess Ice and LG don't want to talk about how bad their voting pattern has been. They only want to twist things.