Mafia #12

For the moment I vote to lynch Charlie

While he is kicking in doors as in the past it could be a cover. Voting because of the list is as I stated earlier a weak reason.

Also he is a shoe shine boy. What a great cover for a lesser mafia to get info and be the groups eyes.

Not to mention he thought about committing a crime. lol

Jpappy isn't off my radar, I'm just a bit worried about a couple of people attacking the list and either voting for him because of it or implying they might, Rb and DD.

actually, I am quite surprised you are going this route, Ice. You are still accusing folks of "weak reasons", which puts me on a high alert at this time. I don't know what the reason for it is, maybe I am just tired of that being an excuse. I would have thought you would have been more wise than to claim "the ol' weak reason" bit again. I totally agree with Charlie and his vote though, and am glad I am not the only one who finds pappy's list a bit premature and too "trying to seem friendly" so early in the game. Weak reason, I don't think so, I just think because the post was suspected so early is what's got you a bit nervous. I don't think I have to say it but I will, you have made it to my SL (Suspect List).

I vote to lynch pappy
 
Lol, that's great. Still not feeling strongly about anyone in particular, but there is some interesting babble going on.

I agree Z - after so long out of the game, it is interesting to see just how the players have evolved. We even have singing! I am watching and waiting for some inspiration to hit. I also have two kids at home today fighting for computer time (poor me!).
 
Just want to let everyone know I wont be on much today until later, I have a lot to get done.
Wanted to comment all these votes on Jpap have me slightly concerned. It seems each time we jump on someone like this so early it seems they end up innocent. I'm not saying he is innocent but I do not like when so many jump on one all for the same one reason. I will agree his posts are questionable, along with DP's. Swayde has a few also. DD and Charlie well they seem to follow each other every game. When I have more time I will elaborate.
For now I'm off, will be back later!
 
I agree that people jumping onto Jpappy seems quite suspicious. I don't think his list is suspicious at all, he even said it was not to be taken seriously and so I just read through it and chuckled. I can see the concern about his saying he had to go to work and then coming back and then saying "oh, it was volunteering" though, that is more of a solid reason in my opinion. It does scare me for people to jump all over 1 thing though. It's so easy for Mafia to bump off an innocent on the first day, it happens almost every time =(

I am sorry if my posting came off as suspicious. I signed up over at Mafiascum and have been reading how things go there and it seems like a lot of people use random generators to come up with their first votes just to get the ball rolling. It seemed like a fair way to go about it considering it was so early and people had not even all posted yet. I don't want to cause any unnecessary confusion, especially so early on.

I retract my random vote on Hooked Newbie.
 
Ah, but yes. Grey and white cat + 5 orphan kittens + 15 yo grey cat + 3 m/o siamese kitten mix + calico + beige/orange fatty + 7 yo orange domestic with 3 legs = 11 ;)
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Just got done with lunch getting ready for my favorite think (not)..going to the store, had a quick question for jpap though...would you like 2 more kittens? I have a very cute white kitten and a adorable yellow tabby that need a good home:naughty:
 
actually, I am quite surprised you are going this route, Ice. You are still accusing folks of "weak reasons", which puts me on a high alert at this time. I don't know what the reason for it is, maybe I am just tired of that being an excuse. I would have thought you would have been more wise than to claim "the ol' weak reason" bit again. I totally agree with Charlie and his vote though, and am glad I am not the only one who finds pappy's list a bit premature and too "trying to seem friendly" so early in the game. Weak reason, I don't think so, I just think because the post was suspected so early is what's got you a bit nervous. I don't think I have to say it but I will, you have made it to my SL (Suspect List).

I vote to lynch pappy


The list in itself wasn't an actual list. It was and I quote " Maybe this totally craptastic not even serious list will get some people talking..."

Where do you see that anything he listed on his list has any weight in either direction?

If you had said his post of work then switching to volunteering was the main reason I'd be right there with you. But because you guys decided to latch on and run with the list its made me wonder about you guys and less about Jpap.

As for making the SL, shouldn't we all be suspects the 1st day?

Your response hasn't helped your case with me, nothing you pointed out makes me think you and Charlie are innocent now. Rb is questionable also.
 
Just got done with lunch getting ready for my favorite think (not)..going to the store, had a quick question for jpap though...would you like 2 more kittens? I have a very cute white kitten and a adorable yellow tabby that need a good home:naughty:


You quoted Dwarf Puffers and then ask a question to Jpappy... A simple mistake, or getting innocents mixed up because we're all the same to you mafia scum?
 
The list in itself wasn't an actual list. It was and I quote " Maybe this totally craptastic not even serious list will get some people talking..."

Where do you see that anything he listed on his list has any weight in either direction?

If you had said his post of work then switching to volunteering was the main reason I'd be right there with you. But because you guys decided to latch on and run with the list its made me wonder about you guys and less about Jpap.

As for making the SL, shouldn't we all be suspects the 1st day?

Your response hasn't helped your case with me, nothing you pointed out makes me think you and Charlie are innocent now. Rb is questionable also.
with all due respect, Ice.... what makes sense to me doesn't necessarily have to make sense to you. I posted why I thought that was a weird post in of itself, regardless if pappy posted it was "craptastic" or not. My point was simply "why even bother". This doesn't have to make sense to you or anyone else and I don't expect it to but I would hope that another fellow townie can see this and perhaps somewhere down the road, it may make sense if put together with anything else. I stated my reasons for being bothered by it to put the thought out there. Would you rather me keep my thoughts to myself? How would that help the town in any way? All thoughts are important IMO, none are less important than the other. All ideas are worth their weight in discussion.

Who's to say I am not going to change my vote anyhow in the next few hours until nite tomorrow, there is still time. If better evidence comes up that is more clear, of course my vote will change.

It would be silly to assume anyone other than myself is innocent especially this early in the game. Currently, I am more concerned in seeing if I can see a slip up/easy mistake from the Mafia in the early days so that we Townies can get a good start over proving myself to be innocent. Why are you so bothered by my vote?


......As for making the SL, shouldn't we all be suspects the 1st day?

Your response hasn't helped your case with me, nothing you pointed out makes me think you and Charlie are innocent now. Rb is questionable also.
I find this kind of a contradiction on your part. In one breath you state shouldnt we all be suspects, and then the next you are insinuating that rb, Charlie and I seem questionable or less innocent... however you want to twist it.

Case? I didn't know I was presenting myself at this time.
 
Just got done with lunch getting ready for my favorite think (not)..going to the store, had a quick question for jpap though...would you like 2 more kittens? I have a very cute white kitten and a adorable yellow tabby that need a good home:naughty:

Hmmm, I think you meant to ask DP this question? He's the one w/the cats and JP is the one doing volunteer work.


I can get over JP's list as he claimed it was just to get ppl talking when he posted it. But the timing of his volunteering is just a bit off to me. Less than 2 hours? Was it a Bake Sale?

Other ppl I'm wary of for posting very little are KoTD, mee-mee, RB, JL. It's not like I post a whole lot either, but I think we all should try to post enough thoughts so that others can determine our allegiances. Only Mafia have to hide and limit their posts for fear of slip-ups.
 
with all due respect, Ice.... what makes sense to me doesn't necessarily have to make sense to you. I posted why I thought that was a weird post in of itself, regardless if pappy posted it was "craptastic" or not. My point was simply "why even bother". This doesn't have to make sense to you or anyone else and I don't expect it to but I would hope that another fellow townie can see this and perhaps somewhere down the road, it may make sense if put together with anything else. I stated my reasons for being bothered by it to put the thought out there. Would you rather me keep my thoughts to myself? How would that help the town in any way? All thoughts are important IMO, none are less important than the other. All ideas are worth their weight in discussion.


Pointing it out is one thing and I agree would be worth its weight down the road as an additional piece of evidence but you latched onto it as your main reason. There are better reasons as have been pointed out. Here is your post
Pappy, really the reason why I picked up on your accusation was because of the post alone. While you said it's not serious, you still went ahead and posted a long post to seemingly help the town of your so called picked up hints. That in of itself, has gotten my suspicious of you, my friend. Are you forgetting we were a team not so long ago, yes, just last game, dear? This was pretty smart actually, you pushed that list to look like the helper of the town but IMO, it was posted way too soon. Sure there should be suspicions, I am not disputing that, however I am disputing the fact that you even felt compelled to post the list so early in the game. I would totally be suggesting folks do that to make it look like they were most innocent if I was from the Mafia group.... that has me raising eyebrows on you, sugar.

You didn't mention his work/volunteer post at all.


Who's to say I am not going to change my vote anyhow in the next few hours until nite tomorrow, there is still time. If better evidence comes up that is more clear, of course my vote will change.

I didn't say your vote would stick to Jpappy. Of course if we don't follow you and your train stalls then you have no reason to stay on him.

It would be silly to assume anyone other than myself is innocent especially this early in the game. Currently, I am more concerned in seeing if I can see a slip up/easy mistake from the Mafia in the early days so that we Townies can get a good start over proving myself to be innocent. Why are you so bothered by my vote?

The vote bothers me because of whats already been stated. The reason you voted.
You saw a couple of names on Jpap, thought an easy enough target and piled on hoping to get the train really rolling. Why are you so bothered I jumped off?



I find this kind of a contradiction on your part. In one breath you state shouldnt we all be suspects, and then the next you are insinuating that rb, Charlie and I seem questionable or less innocent... however you want to twist it.

Case? I didn't know I was presenting myself at this time.

Everyone is a suspect, just you charlie and Rbishop are elevated above the rest, Rb not as much as the 2 of you though.
 
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