Mafia #12

johnlarson66 said:
Are you setting us up to come out as the Detective?

Is this the best you got?

There is no dis-honor is conceding. It is okay to fold.

I will tell you this, if Sovran is mafia. The town will come after you. No matter what the two of you do, there are still some reasonable people here.

I hope the town lynches Sovran, then we can find out if they are mafia or not. I am real sure they are, based on their reaction to ewurm coming out.

Then HN needs to be next.

The plan "rb" was a trick and some of us almost fell for it.
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Now you have me worried. I think RB is mafia based on his gameplay and my perspective on that, it has nothing to do with what HN thinks because I don't trust HN. It's just like with Ewurm, I believed he was mafia, regardless of what others said and the fact Z and Plant agreed just helped me feel better about it, and they also agree on RB and therefore I am sticking to my guns, it worked with Ewurm. I think there is a good reason that Ewurm never mentioned RB at all and why he tossed out 2 people that everyone is totally unsure of as bait.
 
Anyone else been unable to get to the site this morning?

Swayde I agree with you, I still trust JL, but I don't really believe Ewurm's list. I think he chose people to "out" that the true Townies are unsure of. I have been getting a better feeling from HN the past few days, but yes of course I still have my doubts. I do think there may only be 2 Mafia left though, I would suggest RB and JM. But could see Sovran in there as well. Those would be my top three suspects.
 
judgemax said:
I wish I would have seen this before i posted, why do you think it was a trick, you don't think he just excluded him?....If you think voting sov is better, I will do that, I also questioned HN on knowing me to be mafia..It does seem like he is claiming to be the detective which, I find VERY strange?:lipssealedsmilie: <--think about it.
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Here is what the trick was.

Ewurm does not post and lays low. Then we say "it is going to be a wasted vote, he is going to die anyway, lets vote for someone else." I had thought along those lines myself.

I then thought about it. I was fairly convinced that the person that was going to be plan B would be innocent and then at the last moment, ewurm would post. The mafia would save ewurm and the town would lynch an innocent.

I posted my thoughts on this and decided to stay on ewurm.
 
JL: Tomorrow will be a more difficult choice, but today I think we should stick to Plan Rb. Doesn't mean we shouldn't be trying to build cases or prove Innocence for others today. No need to be tunnel visioned.Yesterday I posted all ewurms accusations prior to him coming out. It pretty much convinced me that you are Innocent. I don't have the time right now but we should look at all of Rbs posts since the beginning and try to get some bearing on his loyalties.
 
Look at Sovran's reaction to when ewurm came out.

I think we lynch Sovran and if they are mafia lynch HN and then if there is still mafia lynch rbishob. Now if Sovran, by some miracle, comes up innocent, then lynch rbishop, then judgemax and if there is still mafia lynch HN.

I say we use Sovran as a test to see about ewurms list. Sovran is on almost everybody's list.

I at this time and not comfortable at all with voting for rbishop.
 
johnlarson66 said:
Look at Sovran's reaction to when ewurm came out.

I think we lynch Sovran and if they are mafia lynch HN and then if there is still mafia lynch rbishob. Now if Sovran, by some miracle, comes up innocent, then lynch rbishop, then judgemax and if there is still mafia lynch HN.

I say we use Sovran as a test to see about ewurms list. Sovran is on almost everybody's list.

I at this time and not comfortable at all with voting for rbishop.
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this is what I was trying to say yesterday, I agree with JL, we should vote sovran, if she is guilty, we can look at hn, maybe he threw in both(innocent and mafia) , ..I just don't want to close our minds, ...I will agree with JL here, I think we should vote sov and see, ..i am changing my vote. i unvote RB and vote to lynch sov.

the others are still up for discussion.
 
ZSandmann said:
JL: Tomorrow will be a more difficult choice, but today I think we should stick to Plan Rb. Doesn't mean we shouldn't be trying to build cases or prove Innocence for others today. No need to be tunnel visioned.Yesterday I posted all ewurms accusations prior to him coming out. It pretty much convinced me that you are Innocent. I don't have the time right now but we should look at all of Rbs posts since the beginning and try to get some bearing on his loyalties.
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You saw the Charlie train as it was going. I was called out for protecting Charlie, even though I wasn't. I will find that post.

Also, ewurm named you as being protected. You are the closest thing we have to a confirmed innocent.

Does rbishop look mafia, well yes. He has every game he has played. We know he is twisted by the games he has ran. He looks no more mafia in this game than every other game he has played. His first game he was lynched right out of the gate.

If I was in HN's shoes I would be going after rbishop, judgemax and DD. They are the best "targets". I am also expecting for him to claim to be the detective.

I feel pretty good about there only being two left and that even if we mess up on one lynch, we will get the rest of them right. If we lynch rbishop and he comes up innocent, then I hope the town will go after Sovran and then HN.
 
Besides naming ZS as being protected, ewurm named me as innocent.

Could it be that ZS and I are the last two mafia?

I am surprised no one else caught this either. Ogre tried to throw me under the bus on one of his "confessions". That is what made me vote for him and not trust him.

I think ewurm has made a terrible mafia player. Some people just can't be bad. I would add ewurm to that list.

I trust his list and think he wanted to quit and start over.

I hope once we lynch Sovran, HN will just resign.
 
johnlarson66 said:
Look at Sovran's reaction to when ewurm came out.

I think we lynch Sovran and if they are mafia lynch HN and then if there is still mafia lynch rbishob. Now if Sovran, by some miracle, comes up innocent, then lynch rbishop, then judgemax and if there is still mafia lynch HN.

I say we use Sovran as a test to see about ewurms list. Sovran is on almost everybody's list.

I at this time and not comfortable at all with voting for rbishop.
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you know soemthing, I am liking this idea. We are in a very good position right now and may not be tomorrow because of being unsure about rb. I am 50/50 with him but I am and have been 80/20 on Sov and have been since when she took such an offense earlier in the game. All of a sudden she's not so offended by posts ? I believe if we lynch her, and she's guilty, we can immediately find out if Wurmy's list was correct or not.

There is one thng I fear. That's if Wurm outed power roles, but then thinking on that end, why wouldn't he had taken the power roles out himself.

I dunno... I think I am morecomfortable voting Sov at this time and think everyone needs to regroup and see how off she's been. We can lynch rb tomorrow if it comes down to it.

I unvote RB and vote to lynch Sovran
 
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