Behemoth planted tank

i always get so excited that there's new pix when this thread comes back up.. silly me.. :p:
 
plantbrain said:
...Controlling CO2 as tanks become larger becomes exponentially more difficult.
The present system is excellent.

But measuring how much CO2 is coming in as a rate is impossible, so we going to use a special flow meter for gas that's very accurate(Welding flow meters are too much, and not as accurate as we need).

I think that will help a lot.
Flow rate is too low and there's no suction for the filtration in the lower parts of the tank. I did not design the tank however.

I also put at least -2 drains down there, this would have gotten 4-6.
So it's a bit too late for that.

The diffusion method works very well, 30-40minutes to drop a full point or about 45 minutes to target a CO2 level.

Anything less than 1 hour is ideal.

Now it's just a matter of good stable control.
I suggested a victor medium duty regulator and clippard or german solenoid pair, we have good needle valves, tubign etc, we just need a better solenoid/reg and flow meter.

You cannot count 40 bubbles per second for example, even if you split the CO2 up into 6 lines using the ADA counters, it's still too hard to tweak the rates.

So the new flow meter ought to be a good thing as well as the solenoid and Victor reg.
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How about a mass-flow controller (as is found in numerous Perkin-Elmer Gas Chromatographs)?
 
Kyohti said:
Might I ask what or whom ADA is? And where are they located? I'll take any kind of guidance I can get. I'm currently having a lot of nay-say about my choice of desired profession..... my family would rather I find a job putting my art talents to use. But this is artistic!! It's living, breathing, evolving artisticly constructed ecosystems!!!! I can't get them to see that... : /
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Art is only a tiny part of it.
You need to be Biologist, Chemist, engineer, plumber, electrician, janitor.

You need all that before Art becomes part of it.
Then another 10-20 years of experiences minimum.
It's one thing to do it in your home/business etc.
It's another to do it someone else's home/business.


Regards,
Tom Barr
 
plantbrain said:
Art is only a tiny part of it.
You need to be Biologist, Chemist, engineer, plumber, electrician, janitor.

You need all that before Art becomes part of it.
Then another 10-20 years of experiences minimum.
It's one thing to do it in your home/business etc.
It's another to do it someone else's home/business.


Regards,
Tom Barr
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I wasn't meaning to minimize your work. I understand that it takes a lot more than just an artistic eye. But I love working with my hands... I love animals and I've always been fascinated with the idea that everytime you assemble an aquarium, you're creating a mini-ecosystem. My family has always enjoyed DIY and I've done stuff like building, insulating, roofing and wiring small sheds and barns or rigging water systems for our gardens and landscaping. I've had aquariums since I was about eleven or so and I've loved them ever since I first saw my stepmom's tank when I was six.

I love going to public aquariums and I make my own silent commentary and ratings for each one I go and see. What could be improved as far as species demonstrated in the exhibit, lighting or substrate.... or 'theme' and 'mood'. When I went to the local zoo, I spent more time oggling the tropical fishes in the amazon exhibits than I spent with any other they had on display and when I travelled to the Netherlands, the first thing I put on my itenerary was to visit the public aquarium in Scheveningen!! And each time I dream of how accomplished and proud their creators must be... or wonder how I would've improved on it or left my mark.

That's part of why I like the idea so much is because it's something I can really put my head and my hands into along with my artistic talent.

Would you say it's a rewarding career, the work that you do?
 
No minimization of the work implied or taken :)

You can go get an aquatic or marine Biology degree etc.
Then apply for internships at Monterey Bay Aquarium or public aquariums(MBA is actually privately owned). Then they might hire you for peanuts. After several years, you may move up through the ranks, but it's a long process and they generally pay pretty poorly.

But you can use that as a stepping stone and for credibility for consulting etc.
That takes time to develop.

So 10-20 years is a normal thing.
BTW, i know Jeff and Mike Senske are looking for folks to do scaping etc for their business in Houston area. ADG is their company.

Might contact them and offer to be their salve for for a few years.
They are nice people and you'd learn a lot.

Tom Barr
 
New pics:

Here's an example of EI dosing methods on a tank I did for a client:
The tank is 1600 gallons(w.sump) and 12ft x 4ft x4ft

The client is getting things right, I still am working on adding a O2 controller and a special CO2 flow metering system, unlike anything seem in this hobby.

He still has a ways to go for scaping, but you get the general idea:

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All EI dosing methods.


Regards,
Tom Barr
 
O....M....G!!!!!!!!!!!
If you entered that in POTM, I would forget my tank, and vote for it!! lol:popcorn:
 
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