Mafia #13 - The Witches of ACville- the play

It didn't make much sense to me either pappy. He plays almost like Ewurm did in his first game, this is exactly why I said I'd give the Newbs a bit of slack so I could see how they play. He's had less than a dozen posts though so I still don't know, I can tell he is confused, but that doesn't mean anything about what his role is.

True but ewurm did nail jl on like the second day. So until B comes up with some good evidence he is on my list
 
Early lunch so a quick reply.

It made no sense for you to switch your vote unless you had a buddy who was also going to switch their vote to me but that would have exposed the both of you so for now I'm going to accept your explanation.

I do agree that Bs vote switch made no sense if he had no suspicion of you. One of the posts ( 393 ) as night fell by Jpap asks LG if she is going to switch now that the vote would out Plantling.


Ummm Ice, I was on you the hardest and though you have been trying to be helpful listing post numbers and such I fear DC may be right about you steering the town in the wrong direction. JM voted for me, not the other way around and the only reason that I saw was that I made that comment about her not yet listing the couple of people she had alluded to. And I wasn't even the only one who wondered about those allusions. So she was on me for that but I had and still have witchy vibes from you so I left my vote on you.

You might have voted me and gave me a bit of a hard time but the list of posts under JM tell me different. I see your name, DC and Zs names the most.


I haven't been pm'd either.

B let me get this straight...

You took your vote off of Chas because you didn't think he was suspicious and put it on plantling only to have a vote? That doesn't make any sense. Why even switch votes in the first place???

I'm going to refer back to post 393 here and ask Jpap why he asked LG if she planned on switching to Plantling now that it would make a difference?

I'm going to hold my vote for now, I want to actually be able to process the posts I had listed and tear them down before I make any rash judgments.
 
Ice, the post you quoted w/a lot of names were just "notes of interest" while I was reading through the thread. It clearly got to you and JMax a little more than the others. And LG was on that list also, so think what you want about it being distancing.

Well we know now it wasn't distancing don't we. Looks like a list of 2 known innocents and 1 unknown innocent.
 
Well we know now it wasn't distancing don't we. Looks like a list of 2 known innocents and 1 unknown innocent.
Again Ice, you are all trying to misrepresent me. It was not a list. It was a comment EARLY on in the game about you and Lady G. You are the one who had Lady G on a list w/me (and DD, Z, and Ogre) and insinuated that even though I mentioned LG also, it was only to for distancing. Distancing my foot! She's a known innocent but you also being an innocent is yet to be proven and is very much in question IMO.
 
Sorry.I missed the top quote.
Originally Posted by plantling
Wow! Some early votes already. Though Ice and Lady G do seem to know a bit about witches. Hmmmm...


Wanted to point out one of her 1st posts are already throwing suspicion my way. I know she mentions LG also but it could be distancing.

This is the post where Ice first says I was trying to distance myself from LG. It was in response to my early comment about their knowledge of witches. He had her on his witch list and insinuated that I was distancing. I merely had her on my "notes of interest" post. But he is trying to hang me for it. Isn't this the pot calling the kettle?
 
I had my vote on JM because I thought for sure, she must be witchy. I contemplated moving my vote but things just seemed to point her more and more toward the witchy way due to her not even responding to our votes. She never really even tried to defend herself. Yes, she was busy but the board showed that she was here, so being here why couldn't she at least put something out there to change our minds. I am not saying she is at fault for not being here, but I am saying she didn't defend herself in the least when I believe she could have.

As far as who I think might be guilty. Well, Brk does seem to sit on my list for his last minute scramble for the vote in the minutes before night. First he voted charlie, then no one, then in a last minute attempt, voted Plant. Maybe he voted plant so he didn't have to be questioned why he was voting Judge. He also looks guilty for putting a vote out earlier without reason, and then a few posts later, posts reason. 2 strange ones if you ask me. Again, I will say that this shows me that because he is new, he ran back to the board after discussing with his cronies that he needs to put out reasons in order not to look so "suspicious". When all along, we would have probably passed his vote over with a little leniency because he is in fact the newbie to the game.

I don't want to say the other newbie is on my alert but the simple fact is, that he is. Call it a language barrier or what have you but it seems to me, he is forcing the cryptic talk. Half the time, I haven't the slightest clue as to what he is saying. He tries blaming his hours for his meek attempt at the game, f which I find a poor excuse. If anything, it helps him think a lot more than a lot of us. Yet, he does not try to correct his play or his messages, he simply doesn't post.

DC... well, that drunk post kinda blew me away. I think it woulda been better if he didn't post at all and came back the next day with a hangover post.... as was mentioned, the last thing I would be thnking about if I came home that drunk where my post showed so many typos, all I would be thinking about is sleep. The post seems phony and may have been planted so that he was not questioned for his low posting that day.

King for picking out in my spell explanations that LG must be witchy. He seemed to read it and immediately believe this was it. There should be no other explanation.... perhaps it's because he didn't have one..... chose the easy way out and continued back to the "lay low" strategy of some mafia/witchy roles.

Ogre for discrediting the spells as hints for the town completely. Yes, one or two may be nonsense but rb's track records show that he does hint. When I was mafia and had my team, we were completely sweeping the town until rb came out with those hints of his. This leads me to also suspect Z and Pappy though they are each leaning innocent.

Those that just give me shakey feelings are Ice and Charlie. Both very good players with a lot to say. I haven't pin pointed exactly what bothers me on each, but I do get a weeird feeling from each.

I wish we knew how many witches there were. I like being able to say okay, there are 5 bad guys and 10 good guys and then I can categorize people accordingly...the top 10 people I think are innocent or a few bad guys and the shady, in-between folks and then pick out the person I think is most lkely evil. This not knowing how many there are kinda throws a wrench into that strategy though and so I have to assume everyone is a witch, but I know a few are definitely good power roles and then it really gets hard....argggh...can't think =/

This also bothers me about Sway, however I am not sold on her being guilty or innocent yet. Just wantd to make a note of it.


I did not get a PM last night
 
I had my vote on JM because I thought for sure, she must be witchy. I contemplated moving my vote but things just seemed to point her more and more toward the witchy way due to her not even responding to our votes. She never really even tried to defend herself. Yes, she was busy but the board showed that she was here, so being here why couldn't she at least put something out there to change our minds. I am not saying she is at fault for not being here, but I am saying she didn't defend herself in the least when I believe she could have.

As far as who I think might be guilty. Well, Brk does seem to sit on my list for his last minute scramble for the vote in the minutes before night. First he voted charlie, then no one, then in a last minute attempt, voted Plant. Maybe he voted plant so he didn't have to be questioned why he was voting Judge. He also looks guilty for putting a vote out earlier without reason, and then a few posts later, posts reason. 2 strange ones if you ask me. Again, I will say that this shows me that because he is new, he ran back to the board after discussing with his cronies that he needs to put out reasons in order not to look so "suspicious". When all along, we would have probably passed his vote over with a little leniency because he is in fact the newbie to the game.

I don't want to say the other newbie is on my alert but the simple fact is, that he is. Call it a language barrier or what have you but it seems to me, he is forcing the cryptic talk. Half the time, I haven't the slightest clue as to what he is saying. He tries blaming his hours for his meek attempt at the game, f which I find a poor excuse. If anything, it helps him think a lot more than a lot of us. Yet, he does not try to correct his play or his messages, he simply doesn't post.

DC... well, that drunk post kinda blew me away. I think it woulda been better if he didn't post at all and came back the next day with a hangover post.... as was mentioned, the last thing I would be thnking about if I came home that drunk where my post showed so many typos, all I would be thinking about is sleep. The post seems phony and may have been planted so that he was not questioned for his low posting that day.

King for picking out in my spell explanations that LG must be witchy. He seemed to read it and immediately believe this was it. There should be no other explanation.... perhaps it's because he didn't have one..... chose the easy way out and continued back to the "lay low" strategy of some mafia/witchy roles.

Ogre for discrediting the spells as hints for the town completely. Yes, one or two may be nonsense but rb's track records show that he does hint. When I was mafia and had my team, we were completely sweeping the town until rb came out with those hints of his. This leads me to also suspect Z and Pappy though they are each leaning innocent.

Those that just give me shakey feelings are Ice and Charlie. Both very good players with a lot to say. I haven't pin pointed exactly what bothers me on each, but I do get a weeird feeling from each.



This also bothers me about Sway, however I am not sold on her being guilty or innocent yet. Just wantd to make a note of it.


I did not get a PM last night

DD I really like your insight. Although it is out of character for you this post eases my earlier suspicions of you.
 
Ice the reason I asked Lg if she would switch was because she said herself she would switch to plant because she didn't really like her jm vote but plant only had 3 at the time while jm had 5. Then b switched off of jm, probably becuase he didn't want to get blamed for the vote with no reason and I thought lg would end up switching to plant because it made a difference so I asked but it was already night by then...I wasn't trying to push a plant vote. If I were a witch, why wouldn't I just let jm die? Just to clarify...
 
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