Mafia #18 The Santa Game

[Grins]

This is really overwhelming. Not only figuring out who is evil amd wishing to do the town harm but seeing what very well could be innocent townspeople arguing with one another. It just stands to reason that while we all can't be innocent (someone carried out the hit afterall), we all aren't evil as well. I'm feeling kinda Rodney King'ish this morning and wanting to shout "can't we all just get along" from the town square.

::trudging over to the town coffee shop to ponder::

 

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This is really overwhelming. Not only figuring out who is evil amd wishing to do the town harm but seeing what very well could be innocent townspeople arguing with one another. It just stands to reason that while we all can't be innocent (someone carried out the hit afterall), we all aren't evil as well. I'm feeling kinda Rodney King'ish this morning and wanting to shout "can't we all just get along" from the town square.

::trudging over to the town coffee shop to ponder::

Unfortunatly, we cannot do that while there is still evil scum in the town..you lack of door bashing and tree shaking to confront, question or build a case is disturbing indeed...are you purposly just trying to be hidden in the side lines? This also goes for Gup aswell, very very quiet...

 

[charlie_stubbs]

Wow people! I just read through and jeez... I think I have some good suspects. Those late to question my post mostly.

Ok, I can't prove anything via a PM, in this case it was an email but still... I'll tell you what it said, believe it or not, condemn me or not.

"You are an innocent elf trying to help Santa." Nothing else, no other details, no gifts, no names of teammates, etc. (Hence my baking cookies comment)

Did Bob use different terms for others or are those harping on it trying to help the Grinch? I don't know. If you believe I "slipped", fine vote for me. You'll see. Do you really think I'm THAT stupid even if sleepy?

Like I said those late onto questioning it are very suspicious to me since it looks like they're looking for a "good case" to jump on that they can shrug off later while pointing at those who started it.

I'm going to do a closer review after I get a bite and should have a list to at least look at if the RR comes to town for me. Also, those questioning my silence or why it took so long for me to respond need to look at my posting history and deal with the fact that not everyone can get in while at work. Even when I work from home, I'm too busy to worry about this 99% of the time. Those who've played with me before should be aware of that and will bear scrutiny as well since they tried to quietly bolster the allegations.

So kiss my elven hiney! I'll be back with a few of your names before you Grinchies can kill me or convince my elven or fairy or whatever townies to do your dirty work for you.

Above, I have bolded a statement you made. Please explain which players were questioning your silence, with post numbers. Also, where are the names of the "grinchies" you promised. You know exactly who they are.

I answered that and believe I have a few good candidates. I just need to do one more review and pull the posts.

Here you say you just need one more review and you have a few good candidates. Uh Huh. Another post thats all bun, no beef.

Yes, that is exactly what I was and am stating.



Didn't take long to join in here huh? You and Charlie both know my posting schedule from past games.

Here is what I find interesting. You say to JM that she and I know your posting schedule. I still can't find a post where I have questioned your "silence".



It wasn't a joke (except for the Keebler part). Is it "dodgy".



Spewing rumor and confusion I see. I'm feigning surprise.



No, I'm not and why would you want Santa to out themselves?

Here is where I think you and your pals begin to think Andi is Santa. Call it a hunch.










So, my list so far....

Charlie, Judge, Blue, Lady G, & Ice.

Maybes on Coler and Niko.

Some "gut feel" (feel free to bash me for it, some reading, and some other factors. Yes, I named 7, no I don't believe it's 100%.

I need to review the Blitzen BS talk. That was either thrown out there or fed for purposes on confusing things IMO.

I would have quoted your prior post, bu it was sufficently nested to frustrate me. I am glad I got off early today.

INNOCENTS, please review post #341.

Lady, I explained what I said, but apparently you skimmed over it. You did manage to quote my response that was posted afterwards and in direct subject matter to it though. Your post only makes me rethink a couple of people since I believe the majority (probably large) of those you suspect and quoted are innocent. You've done nothing to ferret out information and merely restated some cases made by others. As for my timing on Jmax, look at my post. It was large and took some time. It was posted 14 minutes after Rb posted about her and I did not see the post until after I posted mine. But, yes I suspected her evil and combined with the fact that Rb had to adjust roles AND that she briefly used a grinh avatar in the Xmas avatar thread and changed it abruptly to the Ho-ho-ho thing right around game start, I believe she was the Grinch. I think you may have inherited that role and that may be what quieted you down. I think Charlie is on your side as well. You jumping on the nice, easy, newbie voting for herself (no matter how bad a move it is) only strengthens my conviction.

I retract my vote to lynch Charlie (Minion) and vote to lynch Lady G (Grinch?).

The part I've bolded above is about all you seem to have right about this post

Remember your editted post catch from a coupla games ago? I think I found a changed Av catch and it's helping to put some pieces together for me.

I dig the gal, but IN THE GAME, JMax and I never get along. Look at her first post. Unbolded, joking lynch vote for me. Then not much of anything except to quietly agree with Charlies case (they both posted on the elf topic twice). I think in an effort to get a majority to lynch someone they wanted gone. If you were evil (you might be), would you pass up a chance to have Coler, Me, Mad, yourself, JL, etc. eliminated without using a hit? Charlie and Lady G BOTH went quiet which is not normal for either of them. Lady G tried to use sympathy for JM to evoke a response against me IMO and apparently "missed" a key post. She caught up rather quickly huh? She's evil.

And finally, in the above bolded area you state LG and I both went quiet. I always post in the morning, and then after work. Now you try to paint me in a bad light by doing the same thing you claim I am doing. You should know my posting schedule, yet you state that I've gone quiet. Uh huh. hoping that would get some nibbles???
I vote to lynch HN

 

[Grins]

Unfortunatly, we cannot do that while there is still evil scum in the town..you lack of door bashing and tree shaking to confront, question or build a case is disturbing indeed...are you purposly just trying to be hidden in the side lines? This also goes for Gup aswell, very very quiet...

I think it would be irresponsible of me to bash doors at this point. It seems to bash down doors all willy nilly is a bit irresponsible of anyone really. Unless you have a pretty clear case of someone being evil you risk taking the focus off real scum and instead having others begin to target innocents. For proof of that just look at how LadyG was singled out and how quickly the town turned on her. Meanwhile the real scum were left to carry out their misdeeds and we lost one of our own. I'll "woman up" and ask questions and vote to protect the town but I am not going to fly off at the handle and play right into the hands of those that wish to do us harm.

 

[charlie_stubbs]

I think it would be irresponsible of me to bash doors at this point. It seems to bash down doors all willy nilly is a bit irresponsible of anyone really. Unless you have a pretty clear case of someone being evil you risk taking the focus off real scum and instead having others begin to target innocents. For proof of that just look at how LadyG was singled out and how quickly the town turned on her. Meanwhile the real scum were left to carry out their misdeeds and we lost one of our own. I'll "woman up" and ask questions and vote to protect the town but I am not going to fly off at the handle and play right into the hands of those that wish to do us harm.

IMO its irresponsible not to kick in doors. This post for example, has raised an alarm bell, so I think its time to kick in your door. You seem to be doing a good job of blending in. You have no suspects at this point??? What are you hiding???

 

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IMO its irresponsible not to kick in doors. This post for example, has raised an alarm bell, so I think its time to kick in your door. You seem to be doing a good job of blending in. You have no suspects at this point??? What are you hiding???

I agree...if nobody was willing to start kicking in doors or shaking tree's, then we would never be able to put people under pressure to see if they slip up with a post, make an ill comment. All that would happen is that the evil's would just lynch away and the innocents would be dropping like flies every game night...not good...So..Lets see what reaction we get from you now "you" have started to raise peoples alarm bells..

opcorn:

 

[charlie_stubbs]

I think it would be irresponsible of me to bash doors at this point. It seems to bash down doors all willy nilly is a bit irresponsible of anyone really. Unless you have a pretty clear case of someone being evil you risk taking the focus off real scum and instead having others begin to target innocents. For proof of that just look at how LadyG was singled out and how quickly the town turned on her. Meanwhile the real scum were left to carry out their misdeeds and we lost one of our own. I'll "woman up" and ask questions and vote to protect the town but I am not going to fly off at the handle and play right into the hands of those that wish to do us harm.

I can't help but notice you say how quickly "the town" turned on her, as though you aren't part of the town. Is this what is called a Fruedian slip??? Explain to me again who you voted for last night, and how you came to vote for this person if you didn't shake any trees???

 

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I think it would be irresponsible of me to bash doors at this point. It seems to bash down doors all willy nilly is a bit irresponsible of anyone really. Unless you have a pretty clear case of someone being evil you risk taking the focus off real scum and instead having others begin to target innocents. For proof of that just look at how LadyG was singled out and how quickly the town turned on her. Meanwhile the real scum were left to carry out their misdeeds and we lost one of our own. I'll "woman up" and ask questions and vote to protect the town but I am not going to fly off at the handle and play right into the hands of those that wish to do us harm.

Thats very correct, you did loose "one" of your own...Kuhli...who was the only evil one to die last night..Is this ANOTHER fraudulant slip up Grins??

 

[Grins]

IMO its irresponsible not to kick in doors. This post for example, has raised an alarm bell, so I think its time to kick in your door. You seem to be doing a good job of blending in. You have no suspects at this point??? What are you hiding???

If you read my vote last night you saw my list of reasons for voting for Clown. I still find him suspect. I also have mentioned that Niko's posting has been suspect. Why that equates to having no supsects is beyond me. But keep this in mind...I did not vote to lynch the innocent LadyG. As for clown whom I did vote for we don't yet know if he is innocent or not but I am suspecting not.

And now you, why the sudden false information about me not listing suspects? Are you trying to deflect from something? Hoping that perhaps another rash of mob mentality will lynch another innocent?

 

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Theses really are starting to ring now....