Mafia #18 The Santa Game

[Reefscape]

For post # 629 .....Valid point JP...

 

[jpappy789]

is it too late to read everything to understand what's going on or am i already dead?

sorry evil elf sum...no vote=UD...you are dead

 

[IceH2O]

I went off to bed, it was late here and i did not see the vote tally



Nailed what exactly



Again, i went off to bed. I made my vote on who "I" thought was evil, not go jumping on the trains that were forming..If thats concidered evil, then keep your vote on me. I will review better shortly when i get to work..

I am glad we got one scum out of the town, and am really sorry to see the innocents gone.

Niko, What are your thoughts on CL? Obviously you must have thought LG was innocent since your vote didn't land there. What about LGs post tipped you off to her innocence?

I think its the townies job to know the vote tally IMO, Rb even posted one not long before night fall at 5:55 or so

to lynch...

plant (1) by jl66 68

hook (1) by cs 78

niko (2) by DD 116 blue 143

clown (4) by coler 188 andi 325 mad 334 gup 350

andi (1) by jpap 351

lady (4) by plant 279 clown 306 hook 362 ice 377

sploke (1) by niko 332

beth (2) by beth 338 lady 348

16 of 20 have voted...

no votes from kuhli kotd grins sploke

2 hours until nightfall....

PMs for nightfall/next day as required/desired...

At that time it was 4-4, you saying you skimmed past this large post and had no idea it was tied?

Well Andi was mostly on Clown and Coler. I've already posted my thoughts on Clown being likely innocent for Nikos non vote, may as well be considered one considering where it ended up.

Coler is another player that bears watching, though Niko could have not voted for Clown because he is evil too and putting his vote on LG would have been the vote that killed her.

So I'm at a cross road here.

Niko evil for his non vote

Clown could be evil because of Nikos vote, so I take back my thoughts of innocence on him. Last game whenever people questioned Clown he turned them or hit them, same thing could be happening here.

Clown could be innocent, therefore Niko couldn't vote him either for the same reason he couldn't vote LG.

Coler could be either, but we wouldn't know without lynching him or Clown or investigating him and that does only 1 person any good as they can't come out and tell us.

My vote stands for now as its the one I'm most sure of at the moment.

You conveniently missed this post also. You quoted my 1st post of the new day in which I said I thought CL might be innocent but you didn't feel the need to comment on my new thoughts?

Just wanted go over a little more what was said towards me over night..



As i stated, it was late for me here and i went off to bed, i am never up late enough to see the end of the day in the game. Time zones mate, time zones..

I put my vote on the person i feel is evil, not the person that everyone else does.

You vote to lynch me just because i did not jump on a train, quite a poor reason to put a lynch on somebody Ice..

What answers are you after Ice? ask away....

Its quite easy for you start stating things like running off, when clearly it is not the case as i have explained that i went off to bed..So, clearly now, there was no running off..

I stated it because its true. I've already showed that before you left for bed that a vote tally was put up so you had to have an idea of what it was.

Heres another vote tally at 7:17

6 votes coler ( a couple of posts later Rb fixes it as being Clown not coler)

6 votes lady

2 votes niko

1 vote each on plant sploke beth

17 0f 20 voting

no votes from kuhli, kotd, sploke

A mere minute after your last post.

My vote is on you because of these facts. Also did you see that your vote for Sploke ended up being on an innocent? Just not the innocent that was lynched.

So again I ask of you. What were your thoughts on CL, going through I see he had to leave the game. But your thoughts on him still matter to me.

Above niko is questioning Grins and brings up her "lack of door bashing"...come on! It was her first day for crying out loud, I cant believe you expect someone to be so confident as to start making cases day 1 of their first game. I have no doubt in my mind that you would bring up something about how they seem to be playing well as a newb so they must be getting coached. This is the post that basically started the Chas/Niko vs. Grins debate about something I find trivial.

Another nail in the coffin Niko? Now you're chasing newbies expecting them to play like experienced players? Give them a few days to get settled and a feel for the game.

JP...i see the point your making there mate, i realise i did go a little bit hard on Grins..Appologies out to Grins..

Oh I see you apologized. Did a team member tell you it was a bit harsh also?

Blueiz, here is Grins post, and then my response. Where is it that i "twisted" her words?? Note the question mark after the bolded part of my post.



I find it odd that in the first part of the post you say CL is still suspect, then later you say he's not. Which one is it???
It's also suspicious that you want to point out that you didn't vote for LG whenever you get the chance. May I point out that since you probably knew she was innocent, I can see why you didn't want to vote for her. Well played.

Actually i misread that. Thanks Pap. My apologies Grins, I acknowledge I misread part of your post.

To funny, 1st Niko and Charlie both jump on a newb and then they both apologize. Is the Grinch getting mad at you two?

Clown-lover has had some real life issues develop and has sent me an e-mail stating he will not be able to pay appropriate attention to the rest of this game, and has decided to drop out.

A total of 14 Townies remain as players from the original 21.

9 of them are Innocents.

5 are Evils.

All power roles are intact. There has not been any switching from evil to good/good to evil.

I'm sorry to hear that CL, I think you were evil IMO but we will not know till the games over I guess.

We started out with 21
14 innocents
7 evil

we lost 5 people 4 innocents and 1 evil which makes it 10 innocents and 6 evil.

Then JM and CL had to bow out. So one of each has bowed out it looks like. I had more evil vibe from CL so I'm going to say JM was the innocent one.

Hope all is well with CL....based on the counts, it appears that CL was an evil.

I agree

 

[IceH2O]

hey niko...rb mentioned that there was no switching from good/evil when he announced that cl has to quit so I am assuming that means that no one switchded roles after jm dropped...so yeah

is it too late to read everything to understand what's going on or am i already dead?

In my post it shows a quote by Coler, that was actually my quote. Don't know why it did that and I could fix it but it would require editing and I can't do that lol.

Thanks Jpap, I didn't feel like trying to quote Nikos post and explain it but yes nothing was said to be switched so your "theory" Niko is null and void. But I'm sure you'll find another way to lynch an innocent.

Kuhli, Ever consider stand up comedy?

Maybe you could start a thread of UD mafia. The last person left loses.

 

[bethkira2000]

do we vote tonight or tomorrow I missed it somewhere

 

[IceH2O]

Don't know how you miss such a big part of the game it being the Night Fall vote and all but its tomorrow by 8 PM EST

 

[jpappy789]

Game ON.....

Nightfall for Game Day #2 is at 8 PM EST, Saturday, 12/01....

you must vote by then else you suffer an UD

 

[bethkira2000]

thank you I know but I have company in RL and didn't want to miss it, I read alot too.

 

[Madcrawdad]

what about jmax mad? all rb said was that switching would be done if needed after she had to drop out...unless I missed something...

you're right... I assumed that since rb posted the counts after CL quit, that it was CL who was evil... I'll need to rethink.

 

[Reefscape]

Ice, answers to post #633.........My thoughts on CL? i dont know now, not had a great lot of thoughts about him.................Regards to the first quoted vote tally, i did not see it..lynch me for skimming if you choose.............As i have said before, just because others see someone as evil, does that mean i have too and just follow suit with my vote? i dont think so, i have my own thoughts without people pulling my strings...at that point, clown and LG were both on 4 votes each, because they were the two highest people being voted, does that mean i have to put my vote onto one of them? no, it does not........................If you care to go back and check on the second vote tally, which was post number #472, it was actually after i had left the game, my last post # was 469...so, you cant really use that second vote count against me.................So, as i have shown you that the facts that you have presented in your post are not correct, you really should be re-assessing why your vote is on me, as the "Facts" you have presented are not all "facts"..........................I appologised to Grins because i felt i had been pushing too hard on someone who was new to the game. Read whatever you want into me appologising......