MAFIA 22: Who is who?

[Grins]

I'm back, later than I hoped but thankfully before nightfall. I've caught up and looks like a few OMGUS votes <waves to Cory> and some finger pointing going on. Both are expected and the 2nd at least is helpful.

I do hope JPap is OK, it seems really odd that he'd have just gone poof when he was participating as much as he was a few days ago. If JPap and JM are mafia (and both are OK just busy) them UDing would be welcome of course. Well not fun in a game sense, but hey it obviously would help in winning.

We have an hour before nightfall, Ice if you're reading this do you have an update for us?

 

[bkw1982]

LOL, you guys are trying way to hard...the fact she did it was suspicious, what she did was suspicious, I did believe her that they were repeat post Geez, do you not know I realize what you are tying to do and your actions are making you the 2 known scum in my eyes:grinyes:

Once again i point out why hav a MOD delete it when it prob been alot faster to edit the post? Plus i dont think Nix would delete a post in this game if it wasnt a duplicate, that be an interesting conspiracy theory.....

CT did alot more suspicious thing durning day one, yet you stayed on DD.....IMO DD followed the rules to clean up the thread.

 

[IceH2O]

Little less than an hour till nightfall

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Vote tally

RB 1 LC(446)

LC 4 RB(597)Beth(631)DD(632)Punk(636)

DD 1 Ogre(539)

Cory 2 Mg(611)Grins(642)

Grins 1 Cory(646)

LG 2 Bkw(653)Clown(675)

Bkw 1 LG(660)

No votes 2 Jpap JM

 

[Grins]

If she is innocent yes I do hope to protect her, but she gives me nothing as of this point to make me believe she is mafia unlike your last couple of posts and explainations of your day one actions. And now your starting to go all over the place LadyG.. First you say it was no big deal but you voted for her and never removed your vote, but you said above that you believed her.. Your actions are not matching your posting now.

I think a better candidate has been found..

I retract my vote on LesbianChap and vote to lynch LadyG

/// Game Off
Well I'm off to supper.. The GF's folks bought us a night at a Chef's Table..
/// Game On

Hope we get another mafia tonight guys

I do this at risk and I realize that but in hopes of being helpful the post you referenced of LG voting for DD on day one does indeed say that she had nothing to base it on other than the removed post and that she was open to moving the vote at that point. I don't really get that she made a big deal of it in that vote. However, as I said in Day one and maybe since I do feel that it was made into a bigger deal than it needed to have been. I found that suspect then and although it isn't a main detail in my mind now it will remain there. DD on the other hand is really not making much sense to me this game. I've played one game with her when she was innocent and the other when she was mafia. Her play this time reminds me more of when she was mafia. Details that she normally wouldn't miss are being missed. A bit of a giggly brushoff of those details. It isn't adding up to anything other than a possible mafia connection to me.

Thing is though...with the way this game is set up..not only are mafia trying to send messages to one another so the boss will investigate and have them on their team...but so are the innocents. So something that normally looks mafia'ish can actually be an innocent trying to send a message to the mayor.

Unfortunately the more I go over scenerios with that last bit in mind the more I confuse myself of whether LC is a mafia sending out messages for the boss to investigate him...or whether he is innocent sending messages out to the mayor. In the last 2 games I played I'd have said something like that with my communicating teammate(s). This time I can't so I'm putting it out there for all to consider.

 

[Lady G]

Once again i point out why hav a MOD delete it when it prob been alot faster to edit the post? Plus i dont think Nix would delete a post in this game if it wasnt a duplicate, that be an interesting conspiracy theory.....

CT did alot more suspicious thing durning day one, yet you stayed on DD.....IMO DD followed the rules to clean up the thread.

Wow, do you read anything I am saying???

Have your opinion Bkw, it may be wrong but you have it

 

[judgemax]

Okay Jmax, I have people listed this way, simply because I didn' think it fair to call someone on or the other if I truely had no idea. and because it was only day 2, however things have begun to fall one way or the other. I also don't have the gift of reading people well, so I have to get evidence first.BUt thanks for making me think differently of you.

Ok beth, first of all, because i said you looked suspicious to me, that raised me on your mafia list?..KINDA WEIRD, considering, we are all supposed to be suspicious of each other!

OK so this is going to be long because I finally have some time to pay attention to this thread and have gone back and looked at Hooked Newbie like I suggested. While all of this is from day one it is very interesting when you put it all together like this. We now know that hooked was a mafia scumbag and I am looking at this through the eyes of who would see it as beneficial to remove hooked newbie from play even without investigating him or finding out who his allegances sided. I think there are probably several in this list.


First Quote.. Decides that all the mods are worth voting for..


Jibs RB about his vote being OMGUS


Votes DD


Votes Mgamer
Most of this above stuff is first day fun but I'm wondering if it isn't tounge in cheek fun and that he is setting himself up for future voting. At this point we are looking at everyone on equal footing as its day 1.






I felt it necessary to include this quote as much was made about the whole deletion of posts.



Here he responds to DD's post.



I again included this because I felt it was needed and have clarified through the moderator that removed those messages that this is in fact the case that those messages could be put back into the thread. And he did assure me that "nothing was deleted that should have stayed in the game".



Here he addresses Jpap and CT




Here he questions LC's vote tally and then removes the question because LC made the correction.


I'm not sure what to make of this post specifically as he is addressing MG who posted two of the few posts he's made that contain any gaming rational in them.


Here he starts digging into Jmax - note that to me this looks like normal HN because he is digging quite a few different players trying to get a read on them (or thats what it looks like to me) and I consider this normal HN play when he is an innocent. He does dig a lot of different players looking for reactions etc.





Here he starts playing with EMO and questioning him.. Again I'm thinking this he is digging for something reactionary..










Goes back to chatting with Jmax because of her replies to his above posts. To me she was awfully defensive in her responses to HN for just a post about what she was doing outside of the AC forums.nope, not defensive, ..Just being a smart alec, ..my usual response style to HN..



Now he starts seeing what Cory Lover is up to.. Again this is a player with whom he has a unique insight as I do believe Cory was the President and HN was one of the men in that game..





Again digging Jmax


Here he is replying to CT who stated that next game he will try harder as he is going that night. And I have to agree with what he posted and was why I personally did not vote for CT. Again he was a newbie and I had written things off as newbie first day mistakes. It was to our benefit that he was mafia when he was lynched but realistically it could have gone the other way as well..





I think here he goes back to having some fun and playing with ICE actually.



Here he digs back into Lchap..


Replying to Grins for his Grammer


Digs Ogre about his number of posts.


Harasses ICE about him not wanting to track retracted votes.






Here he is playing with his votes wanting ICE to have to make the decision based on the voting being a 50/50..

Ok so contrary to what LadyG posted earlier (see below for her analysis of HN posting) I think he was digging Lchap and Jmax and DD the most. He did dig emo about his posting saying he thought he got straight A's in school etc (see above). Sout out of the above who do I think would take him out based on his posting.. Well this is partly based on who he was digging but also my insights as to how two of those people play..

Lchap
DD
JM

Are my choices. I am totally writting off that it was a newbie who took HN out because if they have never played with him how could they know what type of threat he could be if he was an innocent player. They would have absolutely no frame of reference to go from. And from the looks of the newbie players that we have they obviously haven't gone back to read previous games because they are making way to many newbie mistakes to have done so. So with that knowledge I do know that JMax can make some snap decisions about things when she doesn't have a team to support her.. As well as I've seen DD do the same thing. But I'm thinking my final vote is going to have to go to Lchap simply due to the fact of what happened with the night 1 voting. His knowledge of how HN helped him tune his play in the pirates game and KNOWS very well that HN was a very good player that game that found out who the pirates were fairly quickly. That would make him a big threat in this game..

So at this point I replace my vote to lynch LChap.

LadyG's Analysis-

With that said, I VOTE TO LYNCH GRINS i thinkl grins and beth, are two of teh mafia scum, and i think., you'll also find quite a few on LC

 

[bkw1982]

LOL, you guys are trying way to hard...the fact she did it was suspicious, what she did was suspicious, I did believe her that they were repeat post Geez, do you not know I realize what you are tying to do and your actions are making you the 2 known scum in my eyes:grinyes:

Ok please explain whats suspicious about removing duplicate post? You voted for DD with a very weak argument about something that had nothing to do with the actual game, to me thats how a Mafia Scum operates.:grinyes:

 

[Lady G]

Ok please explain whats suspicious about removing duplicate post? You voted for DD with a very weak argument about something that had nothing to do with the actual game, to me thats how a Mafia Scum operates.:grinyes:

I'm done with that Bk, you can stay on it if you want...I have answered and am done answering the same questions over and over to you. I know you have been out of the game for a while...but it has advanced the badgering thing really just reveals your mafianess.

 

[Grins]

With that said, I VOTE TO LYNCH GRINS i thinkl grins and beth, are two of teh mafia scum, and i think., you'll also find quite a few on LC

lol, if anything JM you just enforced my belief that of you, LC, and Cory there is a good chance 2 of you are communicating mafia scum.

Again I'd like to point out these posts which were all made after the first nightfall when the boss could have made an investigation:

#538

Grins because she's barely adding anything to the town, just a post here or there that seems to add another person's momentum without new thought,

#550

other people that i find suspicious, are grins, ..Usually, she has much more to say, ..in actuality, she has posted alot, but said very little, ..I have no trouble believing she could be mafia..

#635

Grins-Posts alot, but I don't feel all her posts are that helpful. She may be just trying to post alot, look like she is helping the town, but isn't really that much.

Not only do they all read as if they are parroting one another, but I find they are inaccurate as well. A quick search of the messages should support that if someone actually believes much of what is being shoveled by these 3.

 

[bkw1982]

I'm done with that Bk, you can stay on it if you want...I have answered and am done answering the same questions over and over to you. I know you have been out of the game for a while...but it has advanced the badgering thing really just reveals your mafianess.

srry LG im not tryin to offend you or make the game unfun for you, maybe i did get a lil repetitive. But ya do look a lil scummy