Mafia #23 Revenge

actually, i find it pretty interesting myself LG, ..seems like alot of work, to save grins. It seems to me, that when the mal thing didn't work, they tried to switch to me, ..when all else failed, they went back to mal.

Yes, really it does.
 
Great post Lady, you summed it up perfectly. It was effectively a JM-Grins race, both solid suspects in my opinion, then with Night approaching suddenly everyone has second thoughts on Mal and the whole game shifted. Now I will be devil's advocate and say it conincides with some of Mal's crazy talk, but Mal seemed to really think Rb was duping her. The question is if the Mafia started the swing, piled on at the end, or both.
 
actually, i find it pretty interesting myself LG, ..seems like alot of work, to save grins. It seems to me, that when the mal thing didn't work, they tried to switch to me, ..when all else failed, they went back to mal.

It could of been to save Grins or yourself JM, or both.
 
Now for a final thought here, and I really have to get off here for a while..Anyway back to the 50/50 thing in the end we had pretty much a run between Mal and Grins....does this strike anyone as a possible reason for this hint???
 
I left of DD, sorry. Anyway...DD, as has been stated by many is one very hard to finger...but her late vote on Mal well it just looks bad also. I could be wrong on her, but that vote and so late...makes me have to wonder.

DD and even more so LChap, the last vote on Mal and only two posts after DD voted. Convient time to place a "real" vote and ensure Mal stayed in front of Grins.
 
It could of been to save Grins or yourself JM, or both.

well, I could agree with that, except, it was never that close between grins and I, and, Grins is the only constant, ..Which is why my curiosity.
 
well, I could agree with that, except, it was never that close between grins and I, and, Grins is the only constant, ..Which is why my curiosity.

Firstly, my vote. I would hate to UD after spending about 6 hours reading this thread.

1-LesChap: LesChap(4) LadyG (205)Grins(309)
1-HN: judge(7) Grins(30) ILB(52/123)
4-JM: ILB(14) HN(27) Cory(486) ILB (560) Ice(582) Grins(718)
1-ILB: Malbri(23) bkw(433) King(475)
4-Grins: bkw(69) Ogre(107) clown(450) Mad(682) Blue(693)
1-Clown lover: cooldude(114)
2-Malbri: Ice(242) Ice(632) King(638) Beth(725)
1-King: Malbri(498)

...SNIP long text...

I just read back, I think ILB made his revocation clear, perhaps not the exact correct wordage but clear.

Heading home

Day One Ends: 7PM CST Tuesday 1/8
(21 Players) No Vote: (3) DD, emo, joander,
1-LesChap: LesChap(4) LadyG (205)Grins(309)
0-HN: judge(7)Grins(30) ILB(52/123)
4-JM: ILB(14) HN(27) Cory(486) ILB (560) Ice(582) Grins(718)
1-ILB: Malbri(23) bkw(433) King(475)
7-Grins: bkw(69) Ogre(107) clown(450) Mad(682) Blue(693) ZSandmann(767) LadyG(795) JM(801)
1-Clown lover: cooldude(114)
3-Malbri: Ice(242) Ice(632) King(638) Beth(725) Beth(776)
1-King: Malbri(498)

Day One Ends: 7PM CST Tuesday 1/8
(21 Players) No Vote: (2) DD, joander,
1-LesChap: LesChap(4) LadyG (205) Grins(309)
0-HN: judge(7) Grins(30) ILB(52/123)
4-JM: ILB(14) HN(27) Cory(486) ILB (560) Ice(582) Grins(718) Ice(817)
0-ILB: Malbri(23) bkw(433) King(475)
7-Grins: bkw(69) Ogre(107) clown(450) Mad(682) Blue(693) ZSandmann(767) LadyG(795) JM(801)
1-Clown lover: cooldude(114)
5-Malbri: Ice(242) Ice(632) King(638) Beth(725) Beth(776) bkw(825) emo(838) Ice(842)
1-King: Malbri(498)

It was "NEVER" close between you and Grins? This is why I post up to date totals as we go. It was VERY close between you and Grins until people started switching to Malbri. JM, I was holding out on putting you on my list because I know you play the way you have been all the time, but to catch you in a lie when there is clear proof to the contrary (that LG just finished posting) is quite a tell.
 
well, I could agree with that, except, it was never that close between grins and I, and, Grins is the only constant, ..Which is why my curiosity.

I do believe it was to pull votes off of Grins really, but actually Judge...before all the vote switching took place toward the end of the night, it was more of a race between yourself and Grins, for quite a while Mal just had the 2 votes from Ice and KOTD. Many ppl did pull off you and switch to Mal though..so it COULD be either way honestly. I do agree with you though, IMO it looked more like the votes for you were not pulling the votes off Grins, or decreasing Grins lead, since more ppl looked more willing to vote Mal, they switched from you to Mal. From the way I see it anyway. This in no way really makes me see you more innocent,,but does make me feel more that I was right w/ my vote to Grins.
 
A couple of interesting posts regarding Ice....

Later in the Day, Judge moves her vote off of HN onto Grins in a move to save herself. Ice calls her move mafia. Did anyone notice that Grins did the same thing (moved her vote to save herself)? She had a vote parked on LChap, but moved it to JMax when it looked like she and Judge would be the main candidates of the evening. Once steam got going on Mal, Grins jumped over to Mal to save herself... Not necessarily an unusual move for Grins, but I didn't see Ice call her out on it.
LOL mafia to the end.

Sit a vote on someone then when it needs to be moved you move it.

Why hadn't it been put on Grins to begin with if you're so sure?

Here Ice pulls off of Mal then onto JMax....
See JM is stuff like this that makes you look mafia, The acting like a child BS that you try to pull off. How is that helping us differentiate between mafia and innocent?

Since Mal isn't getting the Don vote I retract my vote on Mal and vote to lynch JM

Soon afterward, steam is building on Mal and he hops off of Judge back onto Mal, as others think she is the better vote. Why does Ice think those he is now following onto Mal can even be trusted on Day 1? Wasn't Emo one of those diving onto Malbri?
Since others have seen that Mal is the better vote I retract my vote for run of the mill mafia JM and vote to lynch Don Mal

Ice accused others of trying to link him to Grins, but he's really done it all by himself, and quite strongly. The thing is though, if Grins is his teammate, it seems illogical that he'd be jumping so strongly to save her. But Ice has played strong, out-front mafia before (remember the Santa game), in which he did things that you generally wouldn't expect scum to do...

I'd really like to hear from Ice on the subject. The link between he and Grins is undeniable.
 
It was "NEVER" close between you and Grins? This is why I post up to date totals as we go. It was VERY close between you and Grins until people started switching to Malbri. JM, I was holding out on putting you on my list because I know you play the way you have been all the time, but to catch you in a lie when there is clear proof to the contrary (that LG just finished posting) is quite a tell.

OK, well, it was tied early on, ..but I had not moved my vote at that point, and when it was getting closer to night , she had 7 i had 4, ..thats a huge difference in my opinion, maybe i am looking at it different, but to say, i am lying, ..is A little harsh,. IMHO, 3 votes, is not that close in this game, ..If they were gonna put forth that large of an effort to save me, ..they really could have just piled on grins, ..Instead of mal?..

see my point?..
 
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