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it was after my vote Mad, but thats is why I didn't move, I voted for him before that just cuz he wasn't being help to the town.
 
Ans it was't Ice he siad he wasn't going to save, he said that Mafia was trying to save Ice, but that he wasn't going to save anyone. #243
 
So mad...you accused me earlier of not joining the drama, not trying to be in the limelight, didn't you?...yet you kept your vote on a safe spot and never joined the drama on the Ice vs Emo battle...

I think you need to explain why you left your where it obviously wouldn't make a difference. I think Cory needs to do the same.
 
it was after my vote Mad, but thats is why I didn't move, I voted for him before that just cuz he wasn't being help to the town.

I just didn't catch that it didn't bold, wish I had

Here's the thing Beth, you mentioned that Emo's 'not saving Ice' somehow played into your voting decision, but it did come after your vote...

You say/agree that Emo's 'not saving Ice' comment then caused you to not remove your vote from Emo. Fine. This would imply that you were on the thread sometime after your vote for Emo, but before nightfall, right?

Here's my question, though, how did you not notice that you didn't bold your vote? Your botched vote for Emo was in post #174 at 3:39 CST. In his vote count in post #178 (4:10 CST) LChap points out your botched vote.

It looks like post #174 was your last post of the day yesterday. If you had come back to the thread before nightfall, wouldn't you have logically started at post #174 (or before)? That means you would have quickly come to post #178 where LChap points out your botched vote and then fixed it.

Ice also refers to your botched vote in post #196 (5:26 CST) and RB mentions it again in post #239 (6:57 CST). How could you have missed 3 references to your vote?

Beth, it looks to me like you weren't on the thread when you said you were, and that you accidentally pulled a quote from AFTER you voted to try to bolster your position. IMO there's a pretty good chance that you're scum...
 
So mad...you accused me earlier of not joining the drama, not trying to be in the limelight, didn't you?...yet you kept your vote on a safe spot and never joined the drama on the Ice vs Emo battle...

I think you need to explain why you left your where it obviously wouldn't make a difference. I think Cory needs to do the same.

I was going to address this later when I post some thoughts/observations, but what the heck...

Firstly, I just want to point out that while we don't fully know Ice's status, I'm willing to lean him more innocent than I did yesterday. With that said, just so you know, it's really not uncommon for scum to 'befriend' innocents who they suspect are going to die (thru either lynching or being hit). The assumption being, that if they jump up and down hard enough screaming 'so-and-so is innocent,' that when that person does die and show up innocent that the scum will have instant townie 'cred'.

Kind of interesting that you had to be coaxed onto Andi...


As for Ice vs. Emo...

As I said yesterday, I kind of liked Ice for scum (but I like you better). Ice's response to the votes on him yesterday made me not like him as much, though. When Ice is scum, he usually gets very defensive when the votes start to pile up. He may start out calm, but the defensiveness usually creeps into his posts... I didn't see that in his posts yesterday, so while I didn't move him to innocent, I wasn't going to be the one to drop the hammer on him either.

As far as not voting for Emo, Emo was the town buffoon (in a good way, Emo ;) ). There have been a couple of previous games where the town has moved to lynch the town buffoon based on some goofy comment. Usually someone mentions that so-and-so must be protecting the Don, and the votes immediatly pile up on the innocent town buffoon who said something goofy....It's NEVER paid off when that's happened. So I wasn't going to make a late move onto Emo either.
 
Well...bad news...bad news...and good news. I knew andi's tree kicking wasn't in the right direction lol

Sory jpappy for pointing that out. I say what I see...and now I know you were lying about saying you did it accidently.


Beth, I think JM counted your vote and Emo got the coin toss between him and Ice...otherwise, Ice would have been the one to go. You're still with us, at least for one more night...

And I'm glad you made it, Ice...I really do think you're one of my fellow players trying to help the town. I'm glad at least a Mafia UD'd last night, otherwise it may have been ugly for us. Anyways, here's what I'm worried about right now: Mad and Cory. Both have left their votes on "Safe" places where they wouldn't matter. They didn't join the fight between Ice and Emo...and left us with almost no way to read them. Cory DID have his vote on Andi, and we both know Andi is Mafia...but was it a distancing tactic that didn't pay off, or did Cory really just not get here in time to join the fray? Mad has been a suspect of Ice's all game...and been rather defensive.

Bk has my worries because he switched to try to break the tie between Ice and Emo. If Bk is innocent, he wouldn't know if Emo wad too, and with Emo's confession, I'm suprised he go the other way...Maybe he was counting on Beth's vote on counting and wanted to give a 50/50 chance for Ice (rather risky chance, imo) or he wanted to make sure the stronger innocent left, figuring if Ice were gone tonight, Emo would be a good target tomorrow winning him the game?

The more I look at it, the more Bk looks like a good target...however I want some answers for Mad, and Cory. I think RB needs to help the town as well, though at this moment there are probably bigger fish to fry.

Oh, and the suspicions I posted about in my previous post (251) were contingent on finding Ice innocent, as I still suspect. As we haven't found that out for sure, I modified it as above.

Ok...perfect explanation. My parents set times I'm allowed to be on the web most nights, and I couldn't get on until two hours after the voting ended. I tried getting on earlier...but my mom was on the phone forever.
 
I wish Jmax was on so I would know for sure, I hate risking AD posts.
Ice-I have you leaning Innocent at the moment.

Emo-known innocent

HN-want hear from him before I post my thoughts.

Mad-you and Ice always go at eachother, but this feels different, I think you might be innocent.

CL-I am not sure about you, slightly mafia atm

Rb-I think your slightly maifa at this moment.

LC-your helpful, and this style suits you better, trying to help the town not just yourself. So do I think your innocent not so sure I will wait until later to make the decision.

Andi-Known Mafia well one down

Beth-I know me

Jpap-THe Rev and known Innocent....that sucks we lost him

BK-you are slightly mafia atm, yes I voted for Emo I made a mistake, it wasn't hard to do.

Ogre-slightly innocent

CS-I need more from you....

This is in no order and is subject to change.
Rb
BK
Mad
are whom right now I am thinking about.

Beth, in your list here you say that you think I could be innocent, yet you have me listed in your top 3 suspects. A little odd.

sorry Mad, I have leaning innocent atm, yet My eye is one you, because you and Ice are the hardest to read out of everyone. I am watching Ice too, sorry for the mix up I was trying to put thoughts together and post. Sorry my top suspects are
Rb
BK
not Mad
and thinking it over CS is there a little.
I have my eye on
Ice
LC
and Mad


Hmm...this is what I would do when I was mafia last (I always rembered to fix it before I posted). I would say leaning innocent for someone on my list, but then put them on my suspects lists. Realizing it looked bad I would either knock them off the suspect list or change the description on how I felt about them. Sorta what beth did...she just didn't correct it.
 
I'm also getting annoyed beth you still haven't answered my question...don't want to answer it? This is the third time I'm asking....
 
I am not sure at this point if I am dead or not....If I am sorry guys....if not I thought Emo was mafia, he didn't help the town much I believe Ice to be innocent and for him to say that he wasn't going to try and save Ice just sat wrong with me. I take full owner ship of my vote, I thought I bolded it too. Sorry.....I think it sucks that Jpap was taken out..And the Reverend of all things, why did he have to make that mistake.


Your alive and I'm glad JM saw that you meant to bold it. But I'm only glad because it saved me. I was thinking about this all morning and Mad pretty much pulled it out of you. I was going to ask what your reason was for voting Emo on a hit and run vote.I believe you are mafia.

Good news, bad news, worse news

A mafia UDed... that's wierd, but good for us.

I don't get what happened, I guess the mafia killed jpap. Reading JMax's mod posts are almost as bad as reading her player posts ;). So we lost the doc. Ice, how did you know jpap was the doc?

So tonight's the night, we get a mafia or lose.

Emo being innocent blows my theory of him protecting Ice out of the water. So was anyone protecting anyone? Or are they both innocent?

Well I figured either the Doc or trying to trick us into thinking the Doc so I went safe and assumed Doc. It was the graying of the word saved. Thats why I was cringing every time CL would bring it up.

I'd like to hear more from Beth RB Bkw and you Ogre. You all seem to be sitting on the sidelines and just throwing out jeers to help the tide flow in your favor. Anyone that sees EMO admit to being mafia, though he wasn't in the end, and would rather take out a bigger name on assumption is scummy IMO. The only way you'd know that Emo was confused would to know he is innocent.
 
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