Mafia #29 Biological Badlands #2

[IceH2O]

I agree that JMs hit and run post looks bad but I don't like some of the names on her and will not join that crowd.

The fact that Grins moved there to break the tie on Zig really stands out and I'm not sure I trust Plantling on her especially after she joined one of her suspects in voting for JM.

 

[ZSandmann]

We are being herded like cats.

 

[ZSandmann]

I expect Zigman will be along soon to vote for JM, and if JM shows up will vote for Zigman. Looks like Ogre may well be the hanging chad so to speak.

 

[jpappy789]

I dont exactly know why but a few of Zsands posts have seemed "faulty" to me...the whole argument with catfish then the switch to Zig that made me look back at his posts...

Wow at the rapid fire voting going on. I don't really see anyone falling over screaming Evil by either posting in Morse or complaining about Morse. What I do see is something that should not be a big deal causing enough stir to let the Evils sit back and laugh. And the votes are way too scattered ATM, Day 1, yada yada yada... I know, there isn't much to go on, but we can and have on many occasions lynched bad guys the first day.

Basic post by a person who starts posting mid-way through a game.

I vote to genetically test Zigman.

You had ample time to read and post but then you posts the same noise that has already been hashed out, either you A) stopped reading before you reached the current page of posts, or B) you want to try and keep that tension in the game to get innocents going at one another. We shall see.

First goes after Zig (not hard though) for repeating what has been said. But how is that really any different than ZSand's first post?

Popular vote means having one more vote than everyone else???

Here was the vote tally as of your vote:

0-Cory:JL(4)
0-Jpappy:JL(8)
1-LG:Ice(12) JL(122)
1-Plant: Ogre(20)
2-Grins: Jpappy(74) JM(173)
1-JL: LG(81)
3-Ogre: HN(123) Ice(144) Catfish(176)
1-HN: Zigman(163)
1-Zigman: Zsand(172)

Before you voted Ogre and Grins each had 2 votes. Then you decided that you would vote for the "popular vote" with no added input. I understand you are new and going after newbies on Day 1 always gets me accused but this seems very shady my genetically enhanced friend. Are you protecting Grins? Things to ponder.

IMO, mafia like to nitpick but on the otherhand so do innocents so really that doesnt go anywhere. But I also will be keeping in mind that something like this can be blown way out of proportion and so I will wait to see if anything else like this occurs later...

Oh I'd like to add you thought Ogre was the Popular Vote because you were skimming skimming skimming skimming, if you were taking notes (as everyone should) it was very easy to see there were only two votes on Ogre, even if you missed one of the votes on Grins, that is still a loooong way from Popular Vote when there are six people with votes on them.

I have not seen Zsand's attitude towards newbs like this in a while. The last time I remeber was the werewolf game when he went after malefic...he was evil that game...just something to take into account

After those thoughts of mine I cant really do anything put just move Zsand up a little further than the majority of the players.

Because in no game do I pull off some drama trying to figure out who is what?

LMAO..You all act like this is the 1st time I've tried to lure people out of the woodwork and get reactions from them.

Yes, but it seems like each game you have some new "plan" to get the evils. You could not have possibly predicted some of the reactions to the morse code so I am not buying this. I think it was just something for you and possibly another evil friend of yours to hide behind (who that is I am not sure of)...I would have been just fine if you said it was all in good fun but you saying that you had this whole thing in mind from the beginning is BS IMHO.

Other comments: Grins is not making a whole lot of sense and others are finding the wholes in her logic. Either she is trying to get back into the game or she is evil

So far I have:

Jmax
Ice
Grins
Zsand

on my short list...

 

[johnlarson66]

We are being herded like cats.

Ever see the cat herding video? It have not seen it in ages.

I do not think cats are easy to herd.

I will say this, tomorrow, I will most likely vote for whoever of the two (judgemax or zigman) survives. Part of me wants to give him the benefit of the doubt, but the more I look at his posts, the more I think he is a better suspect. I still have judgemax top.

 

[jpappy789]

Grins you're not getting it. You can say anyone you want is a suspect, but until you put that name in bold and vote it means nothing. You just decided to VOTe for Ice with three hours till night.

Maybe its just me but what is the problem with voting within 3 hours of nightfall? Most activity is around then so its not like people would not have time to react...now on the otherhand Grins DID seem to be playing around the question.

 

[OgreMkV]

I'll answer the questions directed to me 1st then delve into the rest.

Earlier Grins asked for a synopsis of what I did in past games. In a nutshell I acted like I was evil,those who claimed they thought it was a plan and I was innocent were the ones that ended up being evil. I fell for it one game but not the next.

Grins also asked what did I get out of the morse codes. I believe it told me 1 person I can pretty much write up as innocent. I won't say who but I won't vote for that person.Others are pointing at him right now and based on that persons reactions and responses to the code there is no way they are evil IMO.

The reactions grabbed by others from the code also tells me a lot. Some might take more time to figure out as I have to see how it all plays out,LG being innocent did throw me, but I still think Ogres overreaction including his list of evils matching with Zigs list tells me they are evils.

Bull cookies. You say that based on one response, this person, whom you won't name is innocent. Then you claim my reactions make me guilty. This is exactly what I was writing about when I voted for you. you just make up some criteria and declare that someone is guilty and someone else is innocent based upon unknown criteria. Bull cookies. You're just making stuff up now.

I'll have to also look closely at players that said it was no big deal but didn't join in on the fun and also the players that did join in but sparingly. They could be evils that figured follow the crowd to look innocent.

How could LG know I'm not innocent even though she turned up innocent? She still couldn't either way. Only the evils know who is who. That question in itself peaked my interest on you Grins. How does LG being innocence bear any light on if I am or not? Me thinks you are trying to use this as a way to pull votes my way.


Now for the other posts...

Most everyone that plays mafia is invisible, we just found that its easier then being questioned on why no posts were made.Not everyone has time to post or is at the comp all day. It has no bearing on who is what.

I like that Zig seems really defensive to the point that he is answering others posts to different players. Plus after all his reading he came to the same conclusion as Ogre. Which IMO is weak at best. I can see 1 or 2 maybe but 4 out of 5 being mafia? Zig also pointing out that we could

I like all the questioning. 1st days have been so very slow that I've felt compelled to cause drama.

Like this is never happened before?!?!?!?

Unless LG had done something to make me think differently my vote would have stayed. It started as a joke vote, DrG LG, but her reaction to the code made me wonder if I wasn't on the right track.

Right now my top suspects are Ogre and Zig and Grins.

Grins,

Lady G had voted for me and also stated I was not innocent. I am not answering for Ice. As a matter of fact, I think he is a good suspect (as always). I just do not think a late vote for him is good for the town.

I wonder if you had voted for me, if Ogre would have followed.

Yes, I would have follwed her onto you, as you might recall I had picked you for scum much earlier. However, she moved onto JMax and I don't buy that for a heartbeat.

Comon, you guys know how JMax plays, if she was a bad guy, she'd be all up in this. Making mistakes maybe, but she'd be there. The only reason she wouldn't be in this is if one of her evil teammates told her NOT to get involved. That doesn't give me enough to vote for her though.

Where is JM? I don't like the hit and run posts and voting at all. I'm going to change my vote. It should tie it up between two of my suspects, so I'm good with a coin flip.

I retract my vote for Zigman and vote to genetically test Judgemax.

see above

Because in no game do I pull off some drama trying to figure out who is what?

LMAO..You all act like this is the 1st time I've tried to lure people out of the woodwork and get reactions from them.

Again, you make something up using totally vague criteria, then declare someone innocent and someone guilty. I say again, bull cookies.

 

[ZSandmann]

pappy, why of all the people with votes was I the one you decided to build a case against? And I have been going at Grins, Cat, and Zig all day so why is Grins on your short list with me. I just find the timing and the direction of that post strange.

 

[Rbishop]

thru 277..

5 on judge

4 on zig

1 each on 3 others

12/13 voting...

1/2 hr to go..

 

[jpappy789]

I think my thoughts on Zig should be questioned in case he is gone tonight...

Honestly, I do not see him as evil at this point. Too many times I have seen people, especially new players, get angry and start babbling or getting confused while others (usually evils) pick at their mistakes until a big train gets started on them. Now this situation is a little different as there is no big train but I see a lot of people at least highly considering switching, which at this point in the day, is almost a commitment. But also when I look at where it started, I see how this could very well be the lynching of an innocent. If he turns up guilty tonight, fine, but I am not at all convinced that he is evil...even for a night 1.